Watch Here - https://youtu.be/msG6FkPWguY Speaker 1: [00:00:12] This just in today. Lamar Jackson has been offered more money than Kyler Murray per Jay Glazer, but that doesn't mean a contract extension has gotten done. Lamar Jackson The Ravens still haven't agreed to a contract as Lamar is seeking to only be the third player in NFL history to receive a fully guaranteed contract. Understandable. Both sides. Why? Both sides would want a fully guaranteed contract or a non fully guaranteed contract. There isn't a ton of precedent for it in the league and still an anomaly that the two examples that we have are of course a very unique situation with John Watson and Kirk Cousins, who is one of the biggest anomalies in the league just by his pure existence. Darian When you hear that the Ravens and Lamar haven't come to terms on an agreement, do you think the Ravens should bend his whims in terms of fully guaranteed, or do you think that they have reason to be hesitant to offer it? [00:01:04][51.3]
Speaker 2: [00:01:04] I think Lamar Jackson should not play this season until he gets his contract numbers. I'm to be completely honest, because you got to you got to secure your future, especially the way he plays. You know, he use a lot of his legs and he does take hits when he uses his legs. So you got to you got to secure the bag when it comes to Lamar Jackson. But this is the problem with the Ravens at the quarterback position, the highest I ever seen the Ravens play for quarterback with Joe Flacco after this. If you look at all the quarterbacks that came through, the Baltimore Ravens were on cheap contracts. You never seen a fully guaranteed quarterback get signed by the Baltimore Ravens. They'll go everywhere else. Only positions cornerback wide, not even wide receiver, running backs, offensive line. But they never did a fully a real full guarantee contract for a Baltimore Ravens quarterback. And this is why Lamar Jackson is going public once to hold out. The guy's a former MVP. If you 39 interceptions. I think the 39 touchdowns I'm sorry, touchdowns. Not interceptions, 39 touchdowns. He didn't even have a double digit interception that year. Understanding that the last couple of years he was hurt, I understand that. But he's still a dynamic player. And you don't want to risk Dad going off of a rookie contract that, you know, Kyler Murray is not even better than Lamar Jackson, in my opinion. So if you want to pay that back to somebody, it got to be Lamar Jackson. And I think he deserves it. Just the Ravens are being cheap as an organization and they don't want a paid star. [00:02:41][96.6] Speaker 1: [00:02:42] Yeah. But on one hand, they're offering him the second highest paid contract in the NFL. So they are, in theory, paying him. Now, the question is over this term guaranteed. Technically, it could all be guaranteed. If he plays up to his ability. He's the superstar we expect him to be remains healthy short of a catastrophic injury, which honestly, in terms of here's here's my thing. How many devastating injuries do we see in the NFL on a yearly basis at the quarterback position anymore? Yes, we had Alex Smith a couple of years ago, but isn't that more of a rarity? I mean, even guys who tear their ACL come back the next year, guys who tear their Achilles come back the next year. Dak, you know, obviously got his contract after his injury. So. [00:03:23][41.0] Speaker 2: [00:03:24] Right. [00:03:24][0.0] Speaker 1: [00:03:24] I don't think that even if Lamar, let's say this, he goes out there week one this year carries his ACL. I don't think teams aren't going to be willing to pay him next year or he's not he's going to be at risk of not playing out the rest of his contract. Now I it's comes into that territory, too, with obviously Lamar, one of his biggest strength is his athleticism. And if he does suffer injury, will that go away without fail? Well, that's what I'm hoping to Lamar. And I think at one point he'll realize this, too. He needs to develop a second gear as a quarterback because no matter how athletic you are, that's that's faith, no matter who you are. Like once he hit that 30 year old mark, that it's tough to be like athletic quarterback and continue to age. Well at the position even I'm sure Josh Allen at one point to another similar quarterback is going to have to realize that and kind of start changing his philosophy not take as many hits to his body. With Ben Roethlisberger back in the day, Big Ben took a hit after hit after hit. He just age like milk. Cam Newton. Hey, Cam Newton. See, I think that Lamar, if he does sign this contract, even without the full guaranteed, I still think he'll make most of, if not all of the money from the contract. So I don't really have a fear of that. So maybe that's why I'm pretty neutral on the term of guaranteed. But I do think that it behooves the NFL to not have guaranteed contracts just game handed like candy, because it's a tough sport and things happen. And when it comes to baseball, I hate that they had fully guaranteed contracts, mostly because it means the players who shouldn't be in the league kind of hang around the league for years or hang around on rosters for years. And maybe not just a for like Lamar Jackson, but I just think in general, it's a bad business for the NFL to hand out fully guaranteed contracts. [00:05:11][106.4] Speaker 3: [00:05:12] Yeah, I understand the point there. And the NFL doesn't hand out guaranteed contracts because they can. It's just kind of how they've been negotiating for years. And only in the cases of Kirk Cousins being able to withstand the franchise tag and hitting free agency or the sexual predator getting traded to the Browns. Has there been a case where circumstances were just right now? Usually the guarantees are around like 75 to 80% now. So what we're talking about is, again, a few tens of millions of dollars and that being guaranteed versus him having to make a roster in order to guarantee those, which I assume for the next seven years, Lamar Jackson isn't in jeopardy of not making a roster. What's difficult about the situation is, like you said last year, I would argue that Lamar Jackson could blow out his knee and would still teams would line up for a fully guaranteed contract. I feel less confident than I did last year and yet still feel the case that Lamar Jackson will still get a gigantic contract larger than Kyler Murray, even if he gets hurt. The difference there is one Lamar Jackson is going to I know the whole thing about Lamar taking hits because he runs is a big deal. But Lamar doesn't really ever take hits and the quarterback position is super protected. He's yes, he got hurt at the end of last year and so did Patrick Mahomes in a regular season game against the Broncos. And he missed about the same amount of time. Like the whole thing about Lamar, like taking too many hits is a little overblown in my opinion. So I think that he'll play out whatever the contract is, he'll get another big one. Obviously he's representing himself, which is a big part of shooting for the guaranteed contract. I think if an agent were advising him and he's going to get $235 million regardless of the guarantees, I think an agent might advise him to sign it just because other quarterbacks who also have agents have signed those deals. I don't know if that's like a causation correlation thing. I just am interested by the fact that what was what exactly was the hold up in the contract like? We know exactly what type of contract he's going to get. We know what the language is going to be in the deal. It's going to be $3 million more than Kyler Murray, which was $100,000 more than Deshaun Watson, which was $2 million more than Josh Allen. Like it. It's a very strategic pattern of contracts. It's why I was surprised that they hadn't signed the deal yet. And now I guess we kind of know the reason why. [00:07:41][149.2] Speaker 1: [00:07:42] I'll have your name reporting on how many years would be on this proposed contract. [00:07:45][2.9] Speaker 3: [00:07:46] I don't have the exclusive report like I had with Kyler Murray. No, I had the Kyler Murray News two weeks beforehand just because I had the Cardinals podcast and stuff. [00:07:56][9.6] Speaker 1: [00:07:56] But I guess why I asked this was because like, I'm curious if. If it was a shorter contract, then I think it might be okay to sign that guarantee, that fully guaranteed contract for the Ravens. If you told me it was like because go back to Kirk Cousins when he signed his full guaranteed contract I believe was a three year deal. [00:08:14][17.8] Speaker 3: [00:08:15] Mhm. [00:08:15][0.0] Speaker 2: [00:08:15] Yeah it was, it was a three year deal. [00:08:17][1.6] Speaker 1: [00:08:18] A three year deal. Fully guaranteed. I might be more comfortable doing that but I don't want to fully guarantee a five year, a six year, a ten year deal. That's when I think that the Ravens will wash their mind in terms of handing out this contract. [00:08:31][13.6] Speaker 2: [00:08:33] I mean, we want to keep it in the middle. I say just give them four years. [00:08:35][2.5] Speaker 1: [00:08:36] Four years, fully guaranteed. Let's see. So the baseline is what, like 40 million per year? [00:08:42][6.4] Speaker 3: [00:08:43] Kyler Murray is getting 46, so probably about 47 to 50, probably. If it's if it's a four year contract, think like the Aaron Rodgers deal, which was four years, 200 million. [00:08:52][9.4] Speaker 1: [00:08:53] Okay. So, yeah, we're talking four years, 200 million fully guaranteed for Lamar Jackson. And think about the Ravens team contract. They've built a nice team around Lamar and what he does. Well, when you think about the offensive line, how it's built them drafting a center this year strong running game with J.K. Dobbins and Gus Edwards. They can make it work on a short term basis. I think that might be a compromise that if I'm Lamar, I'm negotiating this, I might seek Nick. Hey, I want to if that's really the important thing to me, having that fully guaranteed contract, then maybe I could seek it on short term basis. And hey, in three years, four years, maybe we could reevaluate and I could become the highest paid quarterback once again if I play up to my abilities. Yeah. [00:09:37][44.3] Speaker 3: [00:09:39] And we know from Jay Glazer that he's gotten offered more money than Kyler Murray, which makes me think that it's a five year contract, just like Kilar's probably like 6 to $10 million total more so like $2 million more than that because again, like Kilar's was 2 million more than Deshaun, which was 2 million more than Josh Allen, which was 2 million more than Patrick Mahomes. And that's kind of the layering of those five year contracts. So I'm guessing it's a five year, $240 Million fully guaranteed contract, which might be part of the hang up for why he hasn't signed the deal yet. [00:10:14][35.5] Speaker 1: [00:10:15] I think it's kind of like what Darian was saying to the Ravens, how they tend to operate. They didn't hand Flacco his contract until after he won the Super Bowl. Right. They're a very results oriented team and they're a well-run team. For what it's worth. I mean, for the last entirety of my life, the Ravens have been a relevant franchise. So I'll give it to them. They they make shrewd business moves. And this is where it kind of gets tough when a shrewd organization comes against a superstar player who's seeking something that is a rarity in the sport. So I don't know who's going to win out exactly. I think Lamar, at the end of the day, is still going to become a very rich man here shortly. It's just a matter of is he going to again staple himself in NFL? History is only the third guaranteed contract. I actually let's throw this before we close it out here. What are the odds he gets this thing for? Guaranteed. [00:11:03][48.2] Speaker 2: [00:11:04] Either he going to have to do it before we win, but I don't see it happening. Yeah, I think he's going to sit out there. He's going to sit out like three or four. [00:11:11][7.2] Speaker 1: [00:11:12] I don't think he's gonna sit out. I think I think the thing about Lamar, for me personally, I just think he has such a high football character for whatever that's worth, that I don't see him as a sit out type player. [00:11:21][8.9] Speaker 2: [00:11:21] Oh, no. I think he wants to protect his future. You know, you don't want to get hurt. [00:11:25][3.7] Speaker 1: [00:11:26] Yeah, but that could create some bad blood with some guys. I mean, look at even like Le'Veon Bell like that created the whole thing. You should be worrying about other people's money, but players on his own team start resenting after that. [00:11:36][10.6] Speaker 3: [00:11:37] Well, Le'Veon Bell never stepped back into that locker room after it all happened, because, remember, he's. [00:11:41][4.1] Speaker 2: [00:11:41] Got all these different. [00:11:42][1.1] Speaker 1: [00:11:43] Issues that may have been a big part of it to get. Yeah. Hey, if he Lamar hits the open market like if his contract expires obviously be wanted by pretty much all 25 teams I would say quite 32. [00:11:56][13.8] Speaker 3: [00:11:57] There's all all but for all but 14. [00:12:00][3.1] Speaker 1: [00:12:02] All but four teams, maybe five or six, depending on how much going will. [00:12:05][3.5] Speaker 2: [00:12:05] Be involved because no matter what person get released, no matter what quarterback get released, the Raiders got some ties to it. Someway, somehow. [00:12:11][6.1] Speaker 1: [00:12:12] Can we get Dana White to give Lamar call? Can we make that happen? All right. All right, guys. Well, anyway, let us know, what do you think's going to happen with this Lamar situation? Do you think he does get the third fully guaranteed contract in NFL history dropped below in the comments? Leave it like on this video. Subscribe to the channel. We're joined today by Darion Hopkins. We got all his information in the bio of this video. 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