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Julian Martinez: [00:00:05] The Baker Mayfield saga continues in Tampa Bay. But for how long? Baker Mayfield Seven interceptions in training camp so far. Many are wondering, with this potentially being Baker's last chance if he doesn't win the starting job over Kyle Trask, is he done. [00:00:21][16.7]
Kyle Ledbetter: [00:00:22] Done as in being a starting quarterback in the NFL? [00:00:24][2.4] Julian Martinez: [00:00:25] Done as and being a starting quarterback in the NFL for sure. But do you think that this is just his last year? Like, even if he's the backup, like, okay, he sits on Tampa's bench for a year. Is that it? Like, can Baker Mayfield walk into the sunset after that? [00:00:39][14.2] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:00:41] Still, I can't remember if it was you and I talking about it or someone else. But last year, when the whole Rams thing was going on with Baker Mayfield, he was having this career revival and an incredible 13 point comeback on Thursday Night Football for the Rams. I remember saying at the time, Baker Mayfield is one of those quarterbacks where he's going to have to reinvent himself to have a second stage of his career, because it's pretty clear Baker Mayfield's no longer the starting quarterback in the NFL. Basically, the way that came about is really sad, where his former team, Cleveland, basically didn't sign him to an extension going into his fourth season because they didn't sign him to an extension his fourth season. He played through just a ridiculous amount of injuries. He had two knee injuries, a torn throwing shoulder, an elbow injury, an ankle injury. He had a bruised rib that year. Like Baker, Mayfield was just absolutely gutting it out for a team that had no chance of making the playoffs and a team that plan try to move on from him at the end of the season because any ability Baker Mayfield showed his first year or that third year where they made the playoffs and won a playoff game against Pittsburgh, they grinded it out of him. Baker Mayfield I mean, it's been known for years. He's a smaller stature quarterback and all that stuff. But the other thing was he was a two time former walk on, which means that you look up and Baker Mayfield is 28 years old and Baker Mayfield being 28 years old means that he's kind of at that age where the guys who don't really have it as a quarterback in the NFL start to see a decline like we've seen for a few years that, like Kirk Cousins was the fully formed quarterback and then a bunch of young quarterbacks replaced him. And then Jimmy Garoppolo became a fully forward quarterback and then a bunch of quarterbacks entered the league and he went from like the 15th best quarterback to 25. Andy Dalton went from 15 to 25. That's kind of where Baker Mayfield's out at this point is just teams would rather choose the young guy to replace you, and whether that's Bryce Young with the Carolina Panthers or whether it's Kyle Trask with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers teams have just opted for, we're going to take the young quarterback instead of you. And yeah, Baker Mayfield is is it in what I called a bridgewater-ing stage of his career which is he is just going to be a quarterback hoping that he can get one last big contract before he is no longer able to play the quarterback position at a high level. If this is his last year in the NFL, it's going to be because he is the kind of quarterback who doesn't need to reinvent himself just to stay in the league as a backup. Like he doesn't need to have the underdog, unbridled confidence that he's had for all these years because he's he's accomplished everything he can in the sport. He there's no reason to just keep going on as a backup. Maybe that's what he said. Well, he. [00:03:31][170.4] Julian Martinez: [00:03:31] Has accomplished everything he can in the sport. I mean, obviously, there's MVP individual honors, There's team honors. He hasn't accomplished. [00:03:39][8.3] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:03:40] That. Yeah. Yeah. No, but he's never going to be able to do that. Right. Like, yes, Philip Rivers never won a championship. And by the time he was 37, there was no chance he was going to win a championship. Like, yeah, Baker Mayfield. That would be like setting the bar, I think too high for Baker Mayfield because again, this is a former two time walk on quarterback who became the greatest quarterback in the history of college football. [00:04:02][22.2] Julian Martinez: [00:04:03] I think that's. [00:04:03][0.4] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:04:04] Part of the whole. [00:04:04][0.4] Julian Martinez: [00:04:04] Story, but I think that's part of the problem, right? Baker Mayfield, his expectation, his ego, what he sees in himself is not a Bridgewater quarterback. I mean, the biggest difference between him and a Teddy Bridgewater is Teddy. Bridgewater never really had commercials. Teddy Bridgewater never was like the face of a franchise like I guess Minnesota as the starting quarterback. But if you told me about Teddy Bridgewater being their starting quarterback back in the day like okay like Baker Mayfield if the Cleveland Browns would have went on to have a little bit more success, he would have been like almost as big as LeBron and Cleveland. How he at one point like winning their first playoff game in like 30 years, that still, you know, like he was. [00:04:47][42.3] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:04:47] He was the quarterback that broke the drought. Right. They had like 17 quarterbacks in 15 years. And he was the first one that actually looked like he was worth a damn for that franchise. They grinded him up and tossed him out the door. If you remember last offseason, he was kind of like in limbo for like five months or something where they had already moved on from him, but they weren't ready to just cut him outright. They were waiting for a team that was willing to pay at least a little bit of his $18 million fifth year option. And then Carolina was the team that stepped up and Cleveland paid 12 million and Carolina paid 6 million. And then Baker ended up getting tossed out. But I mean, last two years have been a reality check. [00:05:26][38.8] Julian Martinez: [00:05:26] Yeah. So you mentioned other quarterbacks. So like dropping from 15 to like 25. Where is Baker Mayfield realistically? You said not a starting quarterback. So is he outside the top 32 in terms of ability like are there 32 guys that you look at and think better than Baker Mayfield? [00:05:39][13.4] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:05:40] He's number 32. I feel like I can say with relative certainty he is the worst starting quarterback going into the season in the NFL. Desmond Ridder is probably pretty close. Sam Howell is pretty close. But those guys are kind of what I think of as the worst starting quarterbacks in the NFL. It's Ridder with the Falcons. It's Howell with Washington, it's Baker Mayfield with Tampa. So I guess that means he's like in the 25 to 26 range. And granted, there's like four rookies who haven't played yet. So I haven't really, like, put them into the list yet just because they're rookies and we don't know what they are yet. But and I think Jordan loves is also in that group. So maybe Jordan Love is also considered a rookie because he hasn't really played yet as a quarterback. So yeah, I'd say Baker's probably not like 25, 26, 27 range. [00:06:27][46.9] Julian Martinez: [00:06:28] So if you're Tampa, do you have any obligation to start him over? Kyle Trask Because you've seen a lot of Baker Mayfield on tape. We've seen him play a lot of games in the NFL, so we more or less know where Baker Mayfield is. We haven't seen contrast. And I don't know if you're a big Kyle Trask believer or not, but at least we can potentially see it the same way we talk about like a Trey Lance. Like it'd be nice to just kind of like, see what he has on the field as opposed to Baker Mayfield, who we know who he is on the field. Like you're Tampa and you're seeing this training camp right now. Or you think to yourself like, Oh fuck, I don't know if we're going to be bad. He might as well just start the new guy. [00:07:00][32.5] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:07:01] So I'm usually always in favor of start the new guy instead of just the placement holder quarterback. I remember last year I was yelling from the very beginning of training camp until week four. Why the hell are the Steelers playing Mitchell Trubisky? You drafted a quarterback in the first round. He's clearly your long term plan. Please put Kenny Pickett in to start week one of the season and by week four they had made the call They'd seen enough of Trubisky being bad and then they replace Trubisky with Kenny Pickett and haven't looked back since because they are invested in Kenny Pickett's development. The difference with this team is I don't know if Tampa Bay is too invested in Kyle Trask's development because remember they picked him with, I want to say, the last pick in the second round the year after they won the Super Bowl. [00:07:45][44.5] Julian Martinez: [00:07:46] Different circumstances, though, when you're talking about Tom Brady being on the roster versus Baker Mayfield being on the roster. [00:07:51][5.3] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:07:52] Yeah, but I don't know if they believe Kyle Trask is their quarterback of the future. Now, maybe you say this season is a wash anyways and you give them a chance, but maybe they go into the season believing, hey, if we have good luck with health, if Mike Evans bounces back this season, then maybe, just maybe, we can win the NFC South like we did last year. And I just don't know which quarterback gives you the better option to win. But I also know Tampa Bay isn't invested in Kyle Trask's future because they drafted him to be a backup quarterback. He was a later round pick that didn't really have franchise quarterback potential when they picked him. Meanwhile, the Pittsburgh Steelers, regardless of what you thought about Kenny Pickett going into that draft, the Pittsburgh Steelers made their call. Kenny Pickett is the quarterback we're investing in for the future. We're drafting him in the first round. We're giving him every opportunity to develop. I don't know if Tampa Bay's committed that way to Kyle Trask or Trask is a placeholder for the quarterback they're about to draft in next year's NFL draft. So if Kyle Trask is viewed as a placeholder, the difference between playing Baker and Kyle Trask is kind of regardless if neither is going to be on the roster next season. But if you believe that either of them has a chance to be on the team next year, you play that one. And I don't know which quarterback they think has a better chance of being on the roster next year between Baker Mayfield and Kyle Trask. You play whichever one you think has the best chance to stay on the team and give them the repetitions. [00:09:16][84.7] Julian Martinez: [00:09:17] I'm pretty sure contrast still has at least a couple more years on that rookie deal, right? [00:09:21][3.9] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:09:22] Yeah, but we've seen rookie, we've seen backup rookie quarterbacks get tossed all the time. I think Kellen Mond just got. [00:09:27][5.2] Julian Martinez: [00:09:27] Yeah. But if they wanted to keep him as a backup even next year, like let's say they just want to see what he can do on the football field. They could keep him next year because Baker is just on a one year deal, right? [00:09:36][8.6] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:09:36] Yeah, for sure. I think Kyle Trask is 20. He was just drafted the year after they won the Super Bowl. So that would be this is his third year. So he's got one more year after this. Now, so Tampa. [00:09:47][10.6] Julian Martinez: [00:09:47] Is potentially in a blow up mode, but they can also it's already enough just because of the division they're in. They could also still potentially make the playoffs if the NFC South is just as bad as it was last year. Right. [00:09:58][11.1] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:09:59] Yeah, but that's where the question is interesting is which quarterback does give you the best chance to make the playoffs? Is it Baker Mayfield or is that Kyle Trask? I have no idea. I suspect Tampa has no idea either. So, I mean, I don't think Baker Mayfield or Kyle Trask are like long term plans as an NFL starting quarterback. But I didn't think Geno Smith was last year, so potentially I could be wrong. Maybe Kyle Trask is given the opportunity and he looks like a solid quarterback. [00:10:25][26.0] Julian Martinez: [00:10:25] Well, the difference is that last year and we didn't believe it when he was saying it, but last year Pete Carroll was saying, Man, it's a nice luxury to feel like you have to starting quarterbacks. When he was asked about the Drew Lock first Geno Smith discussion and then Geno went out there and. Proved what he proved, made a Pro Bowl looked pretty solid and we could kind of see it. But not every headline I'm seeing, at least out of Tampa, is negative press. Baker Mayfield throws another one and throws another one. And I think when you consider the type of player that Baker Mayfield is, I want to say he's thrown the most interceptions since he's entered the league. [00:10:59][33.9] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:11:00] It's something like that. And Baker Mayfield, from what he's telling us, took less money for an opportunity to be a starter in Tampa. I don't know how true that is because I've only heard it come out of Baker Mayfield's mouth, but he is basically saying, I believe I am a starting quarterback in the NFL still, which if you're Baker Mayfield, of course you have to believe that. [00:11:23][23.0] Julian Martinez: [00:11:23] Well, I wanted to believe that he was going to stay in Los Angeles. I actually thought that was probably the best situation potentially for him with Sean McVay sticking around because Sean McVay, we respect him as an offensive mind. Right. I'm a little worried for Baker in this sense. And I guess this is where I should ask is if this is truly the end of the road for Baker Mayfield, did he maximize his ability or was he just screwed from the start? Because you look at the Cleveland situation, we talked about the Freddie Kitchens era, the brief Freddie Kitchens era. Stefanski comes in, loves him one season, hates them the next. Then he goes to Carolina, which we know how fucked that situation too was. And now he's in Tampa where I mean, Tom Brady would never outwardly say it, but I think that he was so over Todd Bowles in that coaching staff after Bruce Arians was gone. And yes, that was Tom Brady's fault, don't get me wrong for pushing Arians out. But now Baker Mayfield goes to that and maybe Todd Bowles and that staff is just a bad staff at the end of the day. [00:12:25][61.8] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:12:26] So to answer the first part of your question to Baker Mayfield maximizes NFL ability. If we're thinking about his career in hindsight, I would say no part of it on him, part of it on Cleveland and the year that Freddie Kitchens was the coordinator was just sabotaged from the start for Baker Mayfield, and it stinted his growth. But the other side of that is Baker was pounding his place on the table for them to make Freddie Kitchens the offensive coordinator. So both maybe are at fault there the last season. He shouldn't have played through that injury. He should have sat around week three, sat out the season, made Cleveland have to pick whether or not they were going to keep him long term or not, because all playing through the season did was make it clear in Cleveland's head that he was not worth keeping around. He shouldn't have played that last season. And so from there, it's hard to evaluate with the rest of his career has been because he got to Carolina was so bad that they just straight up cut him like he was the third string quarterback on the Panthers who didn't have a quarterback basically to start the season and then had that run with the Rams where he was playing well, but he was playing relatively well. But it was meaningless football. I mean, the Rams were out of it from the start and. [00:13:38][72.6] Julian Martinez: [00:13:39] Yeah, and you go back you mentioned because you mentioned the comeback effort, right, on Thursday Night Football. You even go back to that one. There was some interceptions that should have been had by the Raiders defense that just weren't interceptions. [00:13:49][10.6] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:13:50] Yeah, for sure. So no Baker Mayfield didn't maximizes NFL career, but that doesn't mean like Baker Mayfield's career is a failure, like the fact that he was the number one pick in the NFL draft and the fact that he stuck around as a starting quarterback for even five years is absolutely remarkable. Again, this dude is five foot nine without super athletic physical gifts. He was a walk on at Texas Tech. Kliff Kingsbury didn't keep him around despite the fact he won Big 12 Newcomer of the Year, filling in for I think it was post Patrick Mahomes at that point and moved to Oklahoma, wins the freakin Heisman Trophy at Oklahoma has the greatest statistical season in the history of Big 12 football, which is saying a lot because there's been some crazy statistical seasons in the Big 12 and then he gets drafted number one overall in the NFL draft and then gets all the commercials and gets to be a legend at Oklahoma forever like. But isn't that kind of incredible success. [00:14:50][59.8] Julian Martinez: [00:14:50] Part of the problem in terms of why people look back and think of his career as a failure because he was the number one overall pick. Why would we look at his career differently if he was drafted 1510 relative to Josh Allen, Lamar, Josh Rosen, even, and Sam Darnold in that draft? [00:15:09][18.2] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:15:09] If the 2018 draft had been drafted correctly, he would have been the third quarterback in a two quarterback class. And by the way, most NFL think about it, there's like what, 16 NFL quarterbacks that are worth a damn, that are going to have ten year long careers as a starting quarterback. That means basically like 1 to 2 quarterbacks a year that's actually worth a damn gets drafted in the NFL. Like the fact that he was kind of on the fringe of like the third quarterback in a two quarterback class is still an incredible success because he doesn't have the physical. Gifts of Sam Darnold. Now, granted, Sam Darnold is going to have a better second stage of his career. But that's not for Baker Mayfield's abilities as a quarterback. It's because Baker Mayfield was an immature asshole coming out of college and never really got rid of the full, immature asshole part of the game. And, you know, there's been all sorts of immature moments that people have talked about with Baker Mayfield. [00:16:00][50.9] Julian Martinez: [00:16:01] What was that Duke Johnson thing? Yeah, Yeah, the Duke Johnson thing. You had him calling out the training staff something about concussions or injuries or mis evaluation, whatever. [00:16:11][10.4] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:16:12] The arrest in college, where he's running away from the police, you have the grabbing, the junk thing. That is going to be one of his defining moments. You have. [00:16:18][6.8] Julian Martinez: [00:16:19] Hugh Jackson. You know, he had that situation where you jawing at him on the sidelines. [00:16:23][4.0] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:16:24] Was that Stefanski who said they wanted an adult in the room when when they were getting ready to move off of him. That was the whole thing that they were saying. [00:16:31][7.1] Julian Martinez: [00:16:31] Yeah, that was something that was game discussed as well. Like we want an adult in the room. And obviously when you consider what ended up happening in Cleveland too, that's also an indictment on Baker Mayfield. [00:16:42][10.4] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:16:43] Yeah. And again, he was the one who was pushing hard for Freddie Kitchens, and Jimmy Haslam believed he was the long term option at quarterback and gave him the head coach he wanted. And it was a it was the biggest failure. [00:16:52][9.9] Julian Martinez: [00:16:53] And again, the commercials get used against him to like, again, go get your money. Sure. But like when you just have one good year in the NFL and then you come out and have like more commercials than a touchdown passes at one point, you know, that's that's a problem for NFL team. [00:17:07][14.3] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:17:07] But again, that's the reason why we're talking about will this be Baker Mayfield's last year in the NFL? It's the same thing we talked about a couple of weeks ago with Carson Wentz. It is. You have to be really well like to be a backup quarterback in the NFL. And this is the moment of Baker Mayfield's career where in his mind, he is always an underdog. And by the way, he's got good reason to believe he is always an underdog. He is a two time walk on corner rack who ended up having the greatest statistical season in college football history until Joe Burrow a couple of years later. Like he is perennially an underdog, he went to Cleveland, the ultimate city of underdogs who haven't had a franchise quarterback in 15 years. And he's the savior. He's the God complex. And it's what happens when using the haters as fuel of sorts. What happens when that underdog mentality and trying to prove everyone wrong? What happens when they're right and you're wrong and then that underdog mentality doesn't serve you anymore? That's kind of where we're at with you. Give it to. [00:18:03][55.5] Julian Martinez: [00:18:03] Colin Cowherd, Right? He was like on Baker Mayfield from the start, as far as like what he thought of him. In fact, I'll go back to that Baker Mayfield interview on The Coward Show that was also part of like his legacy as well, like him showing up Colin after like he had a successful first year in Cleveland and now here we are. [00:18:21][18.3] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:18:22] Like I said, this this originally started with he's the third quarterback in a to quarterback class. Sam Darnold is going to have a promising career as a backup quarterback because Sam Darnold is is more likely. [00:18:32][10.1] Julian Martinez: [00:18:32] To play devil's advocate here, though, I would say obviously and I alluded to this, but part of it is where you end up, right? Like if Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson ended up in Cleveland, how different would their careers be, especially like a guy like Josh Allen, Right. Who was considered a project, didn't look that great his first couple of years in Buffalo. But Buffalo had the right staff to work with him, develop him and make him a better quarterback. Where is Baker Mayfield's ability regressed under the coaching staff in Cleveland because his rookie year eight commits comes out sets the at the time NFL's rookie record for passing touchdowns and the second year again Baker it was Freddie kitchens but still like you mentioned Baker wanted Freddie kitchens and his ability regressed because of it. [00:19:24][51.2] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:19:24] BAKER Mayfield had two seasons as an NFL quarterback where he was he was legitimately if he could have had his first season and his third season every year of his career, he would have been Kirk Cousins if he could have done his first year and his third year every year, he would have been a couple time Pro Bowl quarterback of starter in the league for 12 years. It was the second year with Freddie Kitchens and then his body just fell apart because he played through seven different injuries in that 2020. But why? [00:19:53][29.3] Julian Martinez: [00:19:53] Why he could never be. Kirk Cousins honestly though is going back to it. The interceptions, the turnovers, that's part of Baker Mayfield's game too, which is unfortunate because when you consider what made him so great in college, it was that he was a precision quarterback, most accurate quarterback in the game, and he just went away from that. He wanted to be the playmaker. He always thought that he was more athletic than the other guys on the field when clearly when you get in the NFL, that just doesn't translate as well. You're just not the athlete you once were, especially at the quarterback position. [00:20:25][31.8] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:20:26] Absolutely. I didn't mean Kirk Cousins in terms of like his play ability, although he could have evolved into being one of the short accuracy guys in the league. I just meant like he was an above average quarterback his first. Last year, he had 27 touchdowns, 14 interceptions and a 94 passer rating league average is about 91.6. [00:20:44][18.4] Julian Martinez: [00:20:46] I think a good comp. [00:20:46][0.7] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:20:47] Though, pretty good. [00:20:47][0.6] Julian Martinez: [00:20:48] Is he wanted to play like Mahomes. He wanted to play like Josh Allen. He wanted to play like Brett Favre. He wanted to be the gunslinger. And at a certain point, it's like you got to stop being the gunslinger. You kind of honestly would have been better if he played more like Tom Brady, you know, quick out of the hand, accurate. Drew Brees or any of the other ones that like we kind of think of the pick apart slice and dice in the short passing game that would have probably been playing more to his strengths. [00:21:13][25.6] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:21:14] Maybe that's where having four different offensive coordinators in three years in Cleveland probably didn't help. Right? Having four different offensive coordinators probably didn't help me out to where it was kind of the Baker Mayfield offense. But again, this is where I think his career is so interesting for so many different reasons. But I think that this is where it kind of because it's over at this point, let's let's put it there. Whether he gets the starting job in Tampa, whether he doesn't get the starting job in Tampa, it's over. People are picking Tampa to finish fourth in the NFC South this year. [00:21:43][28.9] Julian Martinez: [00:21:43] Even if he gets the starting job right, he's probably going to lose that job at some point during the season if you had to put your money on it. If he starts week one, how long before he gets replaced in season? [00:21:53][9.1] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:21:53] Yeah, I mean, it happened last year, right? He was the starter out the gate for the Panthers and he got what, like three games? Then he had to go in and he had to replace P.J. Walker, played like shit, and then they cut him. So like, yeah, it's basically over for Baker Mayfield at this point. It's just if he sticks around as a backup quarterback, I don't think of that as being like the legacy of Baker Mayfield. It's like he's sticking around because it's nice to be an NFL quarterback. It's fun to play football. I haven't thought about Andy Dalton's career in like four years. It's basically been signed, sealed and delivered at this point. For Andy Dalton being an impact quarterback, that's where Baker Mayfield's at at this point. So he was he's in that group of like the third tier quarterbacks in terms of careers. He didn't have a 15 year career. He didn't have a ten year career as a starter. He had about a five year career, a few years where a team was going to take a chance on him instead of a rookie. And then after this year he'll be a backup quarterback again. I mean, he was a backup quarterback last year. It's just he he chose to go to the one place that had a quarterback opening and he still might not even get the job because they'll opt for the the rookie who the young guy who's been a backup quarterback for the last two years. And I mean, either way, I mean, at the end of the day, Baker Mayfield's career is going to feel like a disappointment because he only got five years as an NFL starter. But the fact that he was even as good as he was, given the skills that he had and given the physical abilities that he had, like his career is incredible. Like his journey to get to this point is absolutely incredible. And at this point, his body has been physically broken. The underdog mentality thing doesn't work anymore because you are no longer an NFL quarterback. It doesn't serve him anymore. And I'm interested to see how he changes for the next stage of his career. [00:23:42][108.9] Julian Martinez: [00:23:43] All right, guys. Well, that's a little bit of a retrospective currently on Baker Mayfield's career or is it a retrospective? Can you take back the reins in Tampa and win over that job? Over Kyle Trask? My dear thoughts in the comments section, we were like on the video, Subscribe to the channel, Follow us on our social media forum, Juju and I'll stay safe, happy and healthy. We will see next year. She. [00:23:43][0.0] [1390.7] Denver Broncos: Pressure & Expectations Russell Wilson's Struggles, Injuries & Sean Payton's Arrival8/10/2023 Unveiling the Denver Broncos' Crucial Season: Pressure, Struggles & High Stakes 🏈🔥 Step into the huddle as we dissect the intense spotlight shining on the Denver Broncos in the upcoming season! 🌟 In this must-watch discussion, we dive deep into the pressure and sky-high expectations surrounding the team, following a rollercoaster of challenges and changes. Russell Wilson's debut season with the Broncos didn't go as planned, leaving fans and analysts pondering the future. Combine that with the setbacks of injuries to key players like K.J. Hamler and Tim Patrick, and the stage is set for a defining moment in the franchise's journey. But that's not all – a seismic shift is happening at the coaching helm. Sean Payton steps into his first season with the Broncos, adding a new layer of anticipation and scrutiny. We'll unravel the dynamic between Payton's arrival and his past comments about Nathaniel Hackett's coaching legacy, sparking intriguing debates about leadership and team dynamics. Join our panel of NFL experts as we weigh the Broncos' potential comeback, the resilience needed to overcome adversity, and the expectations that come with the spotlight. Whether you're a die-hard Broncos supporter, a football aficionado, or simply intrigued by the psychology of team dynamics, this video is your ultimate playbook. Don't miss out on this gripping discussion that dissects the perfect storm of pressures and challenges facing the Denver Broncos. Like, subscribe, and dive into the fray as we decode the narrative that could shape their journey into the NFL spotlight. 🎥🏆 Julian Martinez: [00:00:04] Well, it's a year or two for Russell Wilson in Denver. It's year one for Sean Payton. And so far, their training camp has not gotten off to the best of starts. Tim Patrick Torn Achilles, K.J. Hamler heart issue that's going to keep him out. So here we are again. They're getting beat up before the season even starts. Does that at all change the expectations for Denver coming into this year? [00:00:26][21.8]
Kyle Ledbetter: [00:00:27] Well, that's a good question. What are the expectations for Denver this year? Because obviously, they're not going to win the division and obviously they are not going to be better than Baltimore, I would say. So I guess Denver's in that gluttony of teams trying to fight for the sixth or seventh wildcard in the AFC this year. So I guess not making the playoffs would feel like a disappointment, but I don't think this Denver team is good enough to make the playoffs in the AFC specifically. Like I say, they're not that good. I mean, they last year traded off a couple of big pieces on that defense. We know Bradley Chubb was the biggest of them that was traded at the deadline and their defense was still really good last year. Defense is the position. That's harder to predict whether it's going to be good year over year. But let's say that Denver still has a very good defense going into next year. That then puts the onus on Sean Payton to develop that offense. But like you said, they have lost two of their top four wide receivers at this point. There was already talks about Jerry Jeudy getting traded at the deadline. So I don't know if he's got the same rapport with Russell Wilson that they might need. So then it leans on. Javonte Williams and the Broncos are leaning on an injury prone running back entering his fourth seasons. Yeah, I mean, I don't think it's going to be as catastrophic as last year, but they also don't have a whole lot of talent on that football team. So yeah, I don't know where the expectations even lie for Denver this year. They're, by my count, the third best team in the AFC West. And if they're the third best team in the AFC West, that means they're probably shooting for like eight and nine this season. [00:02:12][104.8] Julian Martinez: [00:02:13] When you consider last year what their strength was with that defense, there was the stat, of course, if they scored 18 plus points in these respective games, they would have been a playoff team last year. And if you insert Sean Payton instantly, that should be a boost to the offense, right? You get a guy with a better offensive scheme, maybe he can revive Russell Wilson and that's really what it's going to fall back on if Russell Wilson looks like he did last year or the year before that it doesn't look like Russell Wilson from 2019 or hell, even just not even. He doesn't even need be that good. He just needs to be serviceable. Russell Wilson again. Then this team can live off the back of their defense, live off a running game. You mentioned it too, though. Javonte Williams is coming off an ACL injury. So how good is he going to be? I think most people, especially in the fantasy football community, want to believe that Javonte Williams will still be will still come back fine from this one ACL. Obviously we've seen a lot of running backs go through it over the years. It's kind of the NFL version of Tommy John where guys just kind of have to go through it at some point. I don't think most teams like whenever they suffer like a third wide receiver injury, fourth wide receiver injury, really realize how much of an impact that is until they get middle of the year. Because you mentioned Jerry Jeudy, he even battled injuries I think it was week one of last year where we thought he had a season ending injury. So suddenly, you know, you have an injury to him. Courtland Sutton gets banged up and then you realize just how thin you are at wide receiver. And Russell Wilson is all kind of like fighting for his NFL career. Just suddenly he has no one to throw to what is it, Big Albert Big a big oh, whatever. Is there tight end? Is that going to be like your top guy if, like, Sutton gets a concussion and Jerry Jeudy has a banged up ankle? [00:03:59][106.8] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:04:00] Apparently number one on the depth chart is someone named Greg Dolcich at the tight end position. And then they have Albert O and Adam Trautman still hanging around in the NFL is in their tight end room. I don't know who any of those people are, but they are their third wide receivers as well. [00:04:17][17.1] Julian Martinez: [00:04:17] I guess that makes sense, right? Trautman Because I'm pretty sure he got drafted by the Saints when Sean Payton was there. [00:04:22][5.3] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:04:23] You would be correct. Yes, he he did indeed get drafted by the Saints back in 2020. The Broncos feel like this year the team that's like we get to week 17 and then there's going to be like one result that locks up a playoff berth for like the Chargers and it just eliminates like four teams from the In the Hunt graphic. That's what it feels like Denver's going to be this year. They're going to be one of those teams that like gets bumped out of the in the Hunt graphic like in week 17 because the sixth wild card has been locked up in the AFC. That feels like where Denver's kind of headed for this year. But they're digging themselves out of a big hole. And I'm not talking about just the Nathaniel Hackett catastrophe of. Last season. It is eight seasons of being one of the worst around organizations in the NFL. The Denver Broncos right now have the second longest playoff drought in all of the NFL. Like we think of them having Peyton Manning and everything that was going on when they were competing with the Patriots. They went to two Super Bowls and made a divisional playoff with the number one seed since the end of that Peyton Manning run. They had been one of the worst run organizations in football. They have used 14 different quarterbacks in and one wide receiver at quarterback In the span of the last eight seasons. I used to be able to name them off the top of my head. But there's a mark Sanchez in there twice. There's two Mark Sanchez runs for the Broncos in that span. So they have been essentially the new Cleveland Browns over the last eight years, and they are now trying to dig themselves out of that hole with Russell Wilson and Sean Payton. [00:05:56][92.7] Julian Martinez: [00:05:57] Well, we can talk about it last week, but I should ask you on camera, on microphone here, did Sean Payton make a mistake choosing Denver? He got to stayed in the analyst booth one more year. There's plenty of great open positions coming up, I think, next season. Did he make a mistake jumping the gun for Denver? [00:06:13][16.6] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:06:14] It's hard to tell anyone who's making $18 million a year for the next six years that they made a mistake. But in terms of like which job gives him the best opportunity to succeed? Yeah, he may have made a mistake, but also that WalMart money hits a little bit different when it shows up into your bank account. It's hard to turn down being the second highest paid coach in the NFL, which reportedly is what Sean Payton is right now. Like, we don't know the exact contract terms of NFL coaches, but reportedly he is the second highest paid coach in the NFL right now behind Bill Belichick. I would say it's hard to turn down that kind of money, but the Broncos didn't want him. [00:06:49][35.1] Julian Martinez: [00:06:49] Well, yeah, no one cares about John Payton's pocketbook. We don't care about that. But yes, let's focus more on the in terms of success like because my my point is like next year I can see Brandon Staley getting fired with the Chargers. I could see Mike McCarthy being out of Dallas, both situations, especially the Chargers one. Hell, I was all aboard The Brandon Staley should have been fired last year and just go out there and offer your best contract to Sean Payton. And obviously the Chargers didn't do it. We know Spanos has a reputation for being cheap at head coach because even Brandon Staley is what, it's third or fourth first time head coach that he's hired recently. So in. [00:07:26][36.7] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:07:26] A row. Yes, in a row they have gone from Mike McCoy to Anthony Lynn to Brandon Staley. [00:07:32][6.1] Julian Martinez: [00:07:33] But I would much rather tie my ship to ascending Justin Herbert Then what we saw with Ross last year, how Sean Payton, he had a weekly segment on Cowherd's show where we would go on and talk about what's happening in the NFL. And the Broncos, of course, came up more often than not because the Broncos were. Interesting story last year and Sean Payton knew what he was getting into. He would talk about it weekly, what was going on in Denver, and he's still talking about it. Obviously. We go back to his comments last week about Nathaniel Hackett throwing under the bus one of the worst head coaching jobs ever. I'm pretty sure if we checked the tape, we checked out every word. He probably said a few negative things about how Russell Wilson was slowing down last year, just because you have to look at it through a different lens as an analyst versus being a coach or being specifically the coach of that player that's struggling. He knew what he's getting into and it doesn't matter what the contract is. I get it. But every NFL team is going to pay. Well, I'm sure you guys got 18 million next year, too. [00:08:28][55.4] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:08:29] It was the new owner. I just situation right. The owners wanted a splash move with the head coaching position and so the day they got up and said we are going to hire the best head coach available on the market. And so they offered DeMeco Ryans the contract and DeMeco Ryans turned them down for the Houston Texans. So then they pivoted to their second option, which was Sean Payton. Remember that people the Denver Broncos wanted to hire DeMeco Ryans DeMeco Ryans said that the Texans who are run by a youth pastor for three seasons were better than the Denver Broncos head coaching job. DeMeco took the Texans job over the Broncos job, and then the Broncos pivoted to their second choice of Sean Payton. So that tells you kind of where Sean Payton's reputation lies right now in the NFL. And by the way, they had to give up a first round pick to make that happen. Like, I don't think that Sean Payton is enough to fix all of your problems because Sean Payton with not enough talent on the roster, we've seen what that becomes like. Sean Payton is the is the kind of coach that will elevate your roster if you give him talented players and people will talk about him losing all those games in the playoffs and all that stuff and blah blah blah like I understand that part of it. And Sean Payton got the perfect quarterback in Drew Brees to reinvent his career and win a Super Bowl like Sean Payton. And by the way, they won more regular season games in four years with the Saints between 2017 and 2020 than any team in NFL history that didn't make a Super Bowl like they were great. [00:09:54][84.9] Julian Martinez: [00:09:54] I won't push back because I don't want to completely undervalue Sean Payton because there were years where Drew Brees was injured and you had inserted. Teddy Bridgewater or you had to have Taysom Hill in there for a few snaps or Jameis Winston came in for a game. And Sean Payton's record in those games was pretty good. He was able to still keep things going, even with injuries. Obviously not having Michael Thomas basically the last two, three years. [00:10:18][24.1] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:10:19] Yeah. And where I think there's a difference there is the Saints had talented players on offense all throughout Sean Payton's tenure with New Orleans and that's why the general manager, Mickey Loomis with the Saints has been there for just as long as Sean Payton has. They had talented players. They're surrounded by Drew Brees for all of. [00:10:38][18.7] Julian Martinez: [00:10:38] But I don't want to say that Denver doesn't have talent players like I think Courtland Sutton is a talented wide receiver. I think Jerry Jeudy is a talented wide receiver. I think Javonte Williams is a talented running back. We still have to see how he comes back from this ACL but is a talented running back. [00:10:51][13.6] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:10:52] No, but yeah, but I'm talking about top of the line players in the league. Like for whatever you think about Mark Ingram Mark Ingram made one Pro Bowl with the Saints They had Mark Ingram they had Jimmy Graham And then when those two players were done, they pivoted to Max Unger and drafted Ryan Ramczyk on the offensive line. Alvin Kamara has been an All-Pro running back. Michael Thomas has been an All-Pro receiver. They've had consistent top of the line. I think a lot of. [00:11:14][22.4] Julian Martinez: [00:11:14] Guys would say that guys like Jeudy, who was a former first round pick, Courtland Sutton, and a former first round pick they thought they think could be that or be considered that had they just had consistent quarterback play. One of the narratives coming into last year is, wow. Courtland Sutton, Jerry Jeudy, they're getting it done with lesser talent At the quarterback position. You get Russell Wilson in here, future Hall of Famer Russell Wilson in here and their stats are just going to blow up. These guys are going to be consistently thousand 1500 yard wide receivers. They're going to put up career touchdown numbers and then last year happened and it wasn't their fault or was it their quarterback's fault? Was it their coach's fault? Probably a combination of both. But like I don't think they're lesser talent because their coaches and their quarterback let them down. [00:11:58][43.8] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:11:59] I think with Courtland Sutton, I never bought into the hype, so I've never considered the possibility that he would be a top end receiver with Jerry Jeudy I understand that, though, because Jeudy was the top ten prospect in that draft class. He was expected to come in and be the number one. He's had one above average season. I think he had 900 yards and I think he only played 12 or 13 games his second season, but he had close to 1000 yards on pace for, like Jeudy, I could understand the belief that he could be a Pro Bowl caliber wide receiver even in the AFC, which has all of these, you know, Tyreek Hills and Stefon Diggs and I'm forgetting someone, but point B Ja'marr Chase You could make the case for Jeudy being a top end receiver. And at this point they're betting on that being their best path forward. Is development of players already in house. Because I know they signed Zach Allen, I know that they signed Mike McGlinchey on the offensive line, but other than that, they didn't really change the roster all that much from last year. They were betting on Hackett is a disaster and we can run it back with a different coach and that will be our path to improvement. And my point from the beginning is I don't think the Broncos have very good players. Even last year my preseason prediction was for the Broncos was they would be competing for the seventh wild card in the AFC and it all fell apart on them at the end of the season, but they haven't gotten any better. [00:13:15][76.9] Julian Martinez: [00:13:16] So I will play a little more devil's advocate here. I do know that at one point they were on their third left tackle last year. Yeah, you know, that stuff matters, right? It does play into the grand scheme of things like having injuries at the offensive line. Now, again, I go back and I did watch those Broncos games and I thought to myself, Russell Wilson again, just isn't making the best decisions. Like there's blooper reel of him having guys literally wide open middle of the field. The Colts game right Thursday night last year where he had K.J. Hammer speaking of K.J. Hammer, wide open, middle of the field, people are questioning whether Russell Wilson was legitimately blind. [00:13:51][35.6] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:13:52] The best thing I can say about the Broncos right now is they will be better than the Raiders, which is something they were not last year. So I think that they'll be better than the Raiders because last year they were, if I'm doing my math correctly, my head finished 14th out of 16 in the AFC. And while there's a lot of like glut in the middle of the AFC this year, I don't think they're going to be that bad. Like, I don't think they're going to be so bad that they are that want to start the Seahawks. I actually I think they just used the last Seahawks pick so that they'll be drafting at the top of the draft like I don't think it'll be that bad next season that they'll be in the top five of the draft again. But I also I don't think I don't think the roster's all that talented and this is me saying that I think Russell Wilson is somewhere between what he was at the end in Seattle, which was like a tier two and a half tier three quarterback, and where he was last year, which was legitimately one of the worst starters in the NFL. I think Russell Wilson somewhere in between at this point, I just I still don't think that's going to be enough to turn a corner for Denver because they don't have enough talent. [00:14:51][58.8] Julian Martinez: [00:14:51] And you mentioned this earlier, but where they fit into the grand scheme of the AFC, Right. The Chiefs, if we put them in pen to win the division again, then they have to jump over. A lot of AFC North teams, a lot of AFC East teams, the AFC South, I mean maybe like a Tennessee or something surprises you. There's always that like one, right? [00:15:12][20.5] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:15:12] Yeah. If I told you that Tennessee, Indy or Houston could be a spicy seven in ten this season that you would believe me if I told you any of those teams were seven and ten and cause problems for. [00:15:22][9.4] Julian Martinez: [00:15:22] And we're also assuming that the Jaguars take that next step this year and just win that division. And then again in division itself. You mentioned you think the Broncos will outright be better than the Raiders. Who knows, Maybe Jimmy winning Garoppolo comes in and gives them seven wins or something like that. And they're better than the Broncos. [00:15:38][16.3] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:15:39] I can't even look at that with a straight face. I just it's just funny to think of hater hater. They're talking about the Raiders might just cut Josh Jacobs, just rescind his franchise tag and be like, okay, see you can leave. [00:15:51][11.6] Julian Martinez: [00:15:51] Yeah, they're a shit show. But still it's it's a possibility it's in the cards because the Raiders I think beat the Broncos twice last year. You the Chargers. Yeah you know and then the Chargers do it another double digit win team and regardless of how much I have disdain for Brandon Staley as head coach and I think that he's a bit of a chump in that position they were a double digit win teams. They also have to leap over them too. So there is that you know I recognize they have to jump over like five teams to even be in the playoffs this year. [00:16:20][28.8] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:16:21] Yeah, and look, before the Broncos traded for Russell Wilson, they were not good enough. I said it at the time. I said it after they were not good enough. But I commend them for saying we're still going to try and get a franchise quarterback anyways, even if it costs us no offense to first round picks and a second round pick. I commend them that they said we're still going to try it anyways. But the Broncos, they said we're going to go for it. We're going to give up essentially three first round picks because no offense was a first round pick two years prior. We're going to essentially give up three first round picks for Russell Wilson and I commend them for saying we're going to try it because they didn't have enough talent at the time. It was a catastrophe last year, but I still thought at the start of the year they've got enough talent to compete for the seventh wildcard spot. And this year I can say they've got enough talent to compete for the seventh wildcard spot. That seems to be where I'm at with the Broncos right now is if they put the pieces together correctly, they won't be battered in Kansas City or Cincinnati or Baltimore or the Los Angeles Chargers or. [00:17:22][61.3] Julian Martinez: [00:17:23] Buffalo. [00:17:23][0.0] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:17:24] Buffalo or the obligatory team that wins the AFC South. But they could maybe get that last mark. They are just as talented as the Jets, and that's why I think they are just as talented as the Jets. And one of those teams might get into the playoffs. [00:17:38][13.7] Julian Martinez: [00:17:39] Denver Target painted on their back. What do you think this year? Big expectations come in when Sean Payton can Russell Wilson revive his career? How much do these injuries in training camp hurt them? Like for your thoughts any and all things Denver Broncos will I can video subscribe to our channel find us on all our social media from JuJu and Kyle Stay safe happy and healthy. We will see you next time. [00:17:39][0.0] [1038.7] NFL 2023: Which Team Goes Worst to First? Chicago Bears, Atlanta Falcons, New York Jets Analysis8/9/2023 "Unlocking NFL 2023's Most Dramatic Turnaround Scenarios: Worst to First Predictions! 🏈🔮 Get ready to dive into the thrilling realm of gridiron speculation as we analyze the potential for an awe-inspiring transformation in the upcoming 2023 NFL season! 🌟 In this video, we take an in-depth look at three standout teams poised for a remarkable worst-to-first journey. First up, we delve into the Chicago Bears' narrative, with a laser focus on the electrifying development of Justin Fields. Witness the evolution of this young quarterback and explore how his growth could potentially elevate the Bears to a stunning resurgence. Next, we shift our spotlight to the Atlanta Falcons, fresh from drafting the dynamic Bijan Robinson. With the NFC South presenting unique opportunities, we dissect how the Falcons' strategic moves could position them for an impressive climb up the ranks. And then there's the New York Jets, who've sent shockwaves through the league by trading for none other than the legendary Aaron Rodgers. Join us as we unravel the potential impact of this monumental acquisition on the Jets' quest for a spectacular turnaround. In this video, we combine expert insights, data-driven analysis, and a dash of football magic to craft our predictions for these teams' journeys from worst to first. Whether you're a die-hard football fanatic, a fantasy league guru, or simply intrigued by the art of comeback stories, this video has you covered. Don't miss out on this riveting discussion that uncovers the underdog potential of these NFL squads. Like, subscribe, and join the conversation as we embark on a thrilling ride through the scenarios that could reshape the NFL landscape in 2023! 🎥🏆" Julian Martinez: [00:00:05] Every year in the NFL, there's a team that goes worst, the first. Obviously, the only eight options that we can possibly have. Last year's worst place teams. We have the Jets who finished seven and ten. Big year for them with Aaron Rodgers in tow. The Broncos five and 12 last year. Then you had the Browns seven and ten. You had the Texans three and 13, obviously picking at the top of the draft last year. The commanders, eight, eight and one in a wild NFC East, the Cardinals four and 13, the Bears three and 14 and the Falcons rounding things out at seven and ten. When I say those eight teams out loud. Who's the standout for you? [00:00:45][40.7]
Kyle Ledbetter: [00:00:46] I can think of five teams that have no chance. So that leaves three options left for me of the group. And of those three teams that I have in my head, I kind of want to say the Chicago Bears. I know that's kind of crazy, but I kind of want to say the Chicago Bears have a chance to go worst to first this season. I know that they've added a bunch of talent and I don't know how that'll change. They obviously draft an offensive lineman they traded for D.J. Moore, signed a couple of players on offense and defense that are lesser impact pieces, but they let David Montgomery go. But I've seen Justin Fields play such incredible football those last couple seasons. And look, if it weren't for them losing a bunch of Crazy one score games because they were really unlucky and one score games, that's usually how a team ends up getting the number one pick in the draft. When we didn't think of the Bears being the worst team in the NFL last year. They're really unlucky and one score games. Justin Fields got hurt at the end of the season and they were trotting out Nathan Peterman for the end of the season. I will not forget that Nathan Peterman played for the Chicago Bears to end the season. But if you're looking for a team that could make a jump from a three win team, that probably should have been like a five or six win team on paper last year, making the jump to nine or ten wins to win a crappy division. I think it could be the Chicago Bears. [00:02:00][74.4] Julian Martinez: [00:02:01] Okay, well, let's work back to the Bears. Well, let's work back to the top. Let's work from the bottom. Let's talk about those five teams that you said had no chance. If I had to guess as far as which team would be the lowest. Arizona. [00:02:13][12.2] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:02:14] Arizona's in that group of five. I don't know if there's one that I think because it's been. [00:02:18][3.4] Julian Martinez: [00:02:18] Between Arizona and the Texans, I imagine for you. [00:02:21][2.6] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:02:21] Know so the teams that I would say have basically no chance of turning it around are Washington. Arizona. Denver, Like, those are the three that I feel pretty certain aren't going to get it. And the reason I say they aren't going to get it is none of those teams that made significant improvements. Arizona, you could argue, has gone backwards in terms of the talent because they want to potentially tank for a top draft pick or rebuild or whatever they want to classify it. [00:02:48][26.6] Julian Martinez: [00:02:48] Well, I guess what actually got to think about also the question to worst to first, we also have to think about who else is in that division. Right. Okay. So in that division for the Texans, they would have to leapfrog the Titans and the Jaguars. The Colts kind of maybe a little bit of gray area this season. They could probably leapfrog them. But are they better or can I potentially see them being better than the Jacksonville Jaguars if Trevor Lawrence gets hurt? But other than that, I have a hard time seeing it. Okay. Well, the Cardinals. Right. The Cardinals would have to leapfrog Seattle, San Francisco and Sean Mcvay is back there in Los Angeles. So that one even might be a dogfight as well. As far as like, can they even get to third place in that division? Right. Okay. So, yeah, no chance at all right for those teams to make that happen. The commanders. So they would have to leapfrog Dallas a playoff giants from a year ago and the Eagles, could they be third place in that division could have a wild year happen and then be two? Probably not with Sam Howell at quarterback, but where things have happened before in the NFL. But yeah, I don't see them being first place in that vision. So words the first in that concept instantly negated the Broncos. They would have to leapfrog the Chargers in Kansas City to make that happen. [00:04:05][76.8] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:04:06] Yes and that's not going to happen. My thinking on those three teams specifically are I feel more confident than anything else that Kansas City's winning the AFC West. The Eagles are winning the NFC East and San Francisco or Seattle are winning the NFC West. Now I'm just putting Seattle in. There's a caveat like it's a possibility Seattle could win the division, but San Francisco is the most talented roster top to bottom, I would argue, in the NFL. And then the other two teams I had, that group are the Texans and the Browns, which are the divisions within striking distance. But I don't think those teams are necessarily going to be able to leapfrog everyone in that division. So the three that I had a possibility on were the Falcons, the Bears and the Jets. And of those three, I like the Bears. [00:04:52][46.5] Julian Martinez: [00:04:53] Yeah. And you know, also to round out the group talking about Cleveland a little bit. Okay so let's say Deshaun comes back and is actually Deshaun from a few years ago okay that's one thing for them but they don't have to. The same talent that they had initially when they made that trade for Deshaun to upgrade their quarterback position. Like I think their defense, obviously, we know how good Myles Garrett is, but don't think that defense was quite what it was whenever they won that playoff game a couple of years ago, had Baker Mayfield and thought were an ascending team within the conference, there might be okay, they might be a playoff team, but do I think that they'll be better than Baltimore or Cincinnati? They'll be in that. I think they'll be in that group, but it's going to be hard for me to see them jumping over Cincinnati. So I agree with you on that one as well, talking about the others. All right. So we have the Jets, Chicago and the Falcons. The Falcons are unique because they have the benefit of a bad division that they can exploit and take advantage of to jump to the top of their standings. So in another video, we talked about Baker Mayfield and what's going on in Tampa. We think that they might be on the downslide and might potentially be a top five drafting team this year. All right. While also kind of expanding on that one, Carolina, they have a rookie quarterback. We know there's going to be a learning curve. They have talent, but it's going to be a challenge for them to be able to really compete for a playoff spot within that first year. The Saints, their mid their defensive players they just resigned Cam Jordan on an extension their secondary we know that that's a strength of the team with Lattimore back there but he was injured and banged up last year and Derek Carr his first year outside of Las Vegas Oakland. We have to see what Derek Carr will really be. But Dennis Allen as a head coach is also a liability. Arthur Smith I respect him as a head coach. They just drafted Bijan. We know that. Kyle Pitts Their wide receiver position leaves a lot to be desired. Desmond Ridder certainly at quarterback, but if they live off the back of a running game and a decent defense, not a great defense, not a good defense, not a bad defense and a horrible defense, but an average defense with a solid running game, they could probably ride that to at least being the winner of that division. And then you mentioned the bears. Okay. So the bears looking around them, the Lions are the preseason darlings by many people had their first sell out at Ford field in the history of Ford field or will season ticket owners I should say the Vikings 13 and 411 and no and one score games a year ago. We know how that those teams tend to regress and then Jordan Love is the Packers starter this year first year starting for Jordan love I agree with you I think the Bears probably provide the biggest X factor to jump to the top and jump to the top and actually being good. So both the NFC South and the NFC North, because of those divisions being more in flux, provide both the Falcons and bears respectively the best odds that jump to the very top of their standings. [00:07:51][177.7] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:07:52] I feel more confident about any prediction this season. The team and the prediction I feel most confident about is the Packers are going to go seven and ten. I feel so confident that the Packers are going to be a seven and ten football team this year, and then that leaves Minnesota, Detroit and Chicago is the remaining teams. Maybe Detroit grabs a hold of that division. Minnesota, I think, is still should be the favorites, like they still deserve to be the favorites because even though that defense isn't very good and even though Byron Murphy's going to try and be the patch that they put to try and fix it, like I still think Minnesota deserves to be favorites. And I. [00:08:30][37.8] Julian Martinez: [00:08:30] I think that Minnesota, they regressed to being a wildcard team at worst this year. I think their offense is still going to provide them more than enough punch. They still have tons of playmakers on that offense, but that defense, they have to turn around everything on their to be good. They were Swiss cheese last year and you go back and watch. I just finished quarterback. You go back and watch that game against the Giants. They're just getting carved apart. It's embarrassing. So if they still have that embarrassing defense and they lose a couple more of those one score games, yeah, they're going to be probably closer to a wildcard team than they will be winning Division 13 and four. [00:09:05][34.4] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:09:05] So here's where the Bears kind of sneak in the backdoor because again, are the odds on these teams great? I don't think so. Maybe you think the Jets are going to be this 13 and three juggernaut this season? I personally don't see it, but here's where it works in favor of the Bears potentially making that leap. All the NFC North teams have to play every team in the AFC West, which is potentially some losses on the schedule for those teams. And everyone has to play the NFC South this year. So all those teams in the NFC South, in the NFC North are going to start beating each other up because we just went through all the teams that if I told you that the Buccaneers, Panthers, Falcons, Saints, Vikings, Lions, Packers or Bears were to go eight and eight this season, you would believe me. Like there's a scenario where all of those teams could finish eight, nine or eight, nine or nine and eight or whatever. With the 17 game schedule, like, all those teams have the potential to be perfectly average. And so that leaves a lot. A room for chaos that's within that division, because 25% of each of those teams schedules are going to be playing each other. So the NFC South, the Falcons play the Bears. The Bears play the Saints, the Saints play the Vikings. All those teams are going to start beating each other up. And that creates potential for one of those teams to maybe win a division at ten and seven. Maybe it's the Falcons, maybe it's the Bears, maybe it's one of the non last place teams, but there's some potential for chaos. [00:10:27][81.9] Julian Martinez: [00:10:28] We haven't talked about the Jets enough here, so let's talk about the Jets in their possibly jumping worse the first so we know the big storyline for them is Aaron Rodgers getting added to this one they have talent at the wide receiver position their defense is a strength of this team. You compare that to the bills who the bills have a little bit of drama in their locker room. We know that there was some offseason headlines between Stefon Diggs and Josh Allen. It's getting tougher to manage the cap. We saw that this team got beat up in the playoff game last year against Cincinnati, so the Bills could be a team on the decline potentially. A Josh Allen is still going to be good enough to keep that team afloat more often than not. But even Josh Allen, you know, he falls victim to the turnovers and that could be a potential thing that could cost the bills to lose a few more games this year. The Dolphins now the Dolphins are a lot of people's picks. The hell even be a surprise Darkhorse Super Bowl contender but that's going to ride on Tua's health, which we know is a consistent story for them. Their defense wasn't great last year. Their running game was a big drawback on the team. Last year. They're going to beat you with their wide receiving talent. They're one of the fastest teams in the league. Let's face it, they have Tyreek, they have Jaylen Waddle, the Patriots Steady Eddie. They could be the second best team in this division. They can surprise people and be the first. I don't know what Belichick they're you're always going to be no they're going to be good but the Jets in terms of pure talent on the roster should be better than the Patriots. I don't think that that's really deniable in terms of talent on the roster. The Jets should be better than the Patriots. So when I compare them to the teams in their division, the Jets from seven and ten, they were seven and ten with the bad play of Zach Wilson and everyone else that they had a throw at quarterback last year. Yeah. Could they win this division and be like a 12 and five team? That's something I could see happening. Could the bills regress and be more like 11 win team next year as opposed to a 13 win team in next year the Dolphins more in that ten win territory or as you joke around with the nine and eight or eight and nine record. Yeah those are all things I could see happen, right? So that's like the Jets opportunity, but it's a little bit more of a tough road. So again, going back to the rankings question of it, they are the third because they don't have the benefit of a bad division like the Falcons do, like the Bears do. [00:12:46][138.6] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:12:47] I might go as far to say the Jets are two and the Falcons are three. And the reason I say that is just I don't see the vision with the Falcons like Bijan Robinson is going to improve their offense. They want to run the football. I joke last year Arthur Smith, after Marcus Mariota threw a pick, ran the ball on 17 consecutive plays in a game last year. Arthur Smith's wet dream is to recreate the 2019 Tennessee Titans in Atlanta, just the most boring seven and ten football you can imagine. [00:13:13][26.0] Julian Martinez: [00:13:13] But you get I'm betting more against that their division than I'm betting on them. [00:13:16][3.1] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:13:17] Yeah, No, you're absolutely right. Anyone can win that division. But I think I think Carolina has a better chance of winning that division than Atlanta, because I just I don't see division with that lane. I understand drafting Bjarne, he was that talent. We talked about it around the draft. But if the whole point was to draft a star running back and never invest in the quarterback position, why did you draft two receivers with top ten picks the previous two seasons? Why did you pick Kyle Pitts? Why did you pick Drake London? If the entire game plan was just, we're going to run the ball with Bijan Robinson. [00:13:48][31.3] Julian Martinez: [00:13:49] Maybe I should say, with Atlanta. So we mentioned Desmond Ridder, but I'm forgetting they did sign Taylor Heinicke this year and they were Heinicke has come in and he's shown the ability to be a gamer. At least he's a NFL quarterback, which I don't know if Desmond Ridder is an NFL quarterback. Right. So I could see potentially if Taylor Heinicke comes in, wins the starting job, takes over, could he be good enough to engineer this Falcons offense to again, like nine and eight good enough to win the NFC South? Yeah I can see that with Taylor Heinicke. Yeah I can. In fact I'll go I'll stretch this I can see that if they start they start Taylor Heinicke more than I can. If they go into this year with Desmond Ridder, I would say honestly, if I'm the Falcons, yeah, Taylor Heinicke is my guy. [00:14:35][46.3] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:14:36] Just because Desmond Ridder's the unknown, right? We don't know what he is. [00:14:39][2.8] Julian Martinez: [00:14:39] He's the unknown. But he didn't even. Well, he's kind of known because I did see the games he starred in last year, and I left very underwhelmed, in fact, too. And maybe this is unfair to him in certain respects, but seeing him in the game against Alabama a couple of years ago, that really scared me for what even going into the draft of what Desmond Ridder could be like going against the first elite defense that he really faced in college football. All that year with a bunch of guys who obviously ended up going to the NFL, and he looked as inept as he did. And then he comes into the pros and kind of looks about the same as he did in that college football playoff game. So I would say I've seen Taylor Heinicke, how I've seen Taylor Heinicke do it in a playoff game, actually. So against a team that went on to win the Super Bowl that year. So I can only say that I think that I, I feel very confident that from what I've seen on the NFL field, Taylor Heinicke, he's a better quarterback than Desmond Ridder. [00:15:33][54.3] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:15:34] I think that's why I put him third because I still I still think the Jets have a pretty good chance. And look Buffalo was this juggernaut last season. I think Buffalo's going to be that this year in the regular season. But I do acknowledge that the Jets have talent. Like I don't want to say oh that it's not all buffalo. Like the reason that the Jets won't win the AFC East is not all buffalo. Like the Jets do have a talented team there. I just I think if you stack them up against Kansas City or Cincinnati or a Baltimore or even a Buffalo, I don't know how how the Jets are going to match up in terms of regular season. Now one game sample size, it's football, random shit happens all the time. But over the course of a regular season, I don't know how the Jets are going to stack up in that respect. [00:16:15][41.4] Julian Martinez: [00:16:16] Here's another thing to mention with the Jets. I know that their start to their schedule is not very favorable. I want to say a top five toughest schedule in the league to start the year. So if they start off on a poor note, then that opens up the possibility that they're out of it before we even get to Thanksgiving. [00:16:32][16.5] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:16:33] Oh, yeah, it's rough. I just saw it for the first time. It's home against Buffalo at the Dallas Cowboys, home against New England, home against Kansas City at Denver. A little bit better. But then again, we did a video on the Broncos and I said it's a little more favorable. The Broncos get to play at home against the Jets. Yeah. And then they play home. You give them goals. [00:16:54][20.7] Julian Martinez: [00:16:54] You give them Denver at home. That's that's not good. [00:16:56][2.2] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:16:58] There's no and then they're then they're home against the Eagles neutral game against the Giants because again it's Jets Giants they play at the same stadium and then they play Chargers. So yeah, the first half of the season is rough for the Jets. [00:17:11][12.9] Julian Martinez: [00:17:12] Yeah. And we know that sometimes like a poor start to the season could back break a lot of teams before we even get to the point where we're talking about playoffs. [00:17:20][8.2] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:17:21] But if they beat Buffalo at home, week one could be the turning point to galvanize the season. It makes them believe in the abilities of Aaron Rodgers, believe in themselves and believe in Robert Saleh. If they could just beat the bills at home week one. [00:17:33][11.9] Julian Martinez: [00:17:33] Now, I would say in doing this exercise here, though, I have discovered that there's not as many worse to first teams I really believe in as there have been in previous years. Like, you know, there's been years like I remember when the Niners made their Super Bowl run a couple of years ago where a lot of teams were like, okay, I could see this team. They had a rough year, but they're going to be bouncing back next year. We're looking at these teams here and there's not really that team that we think can Yeah, there's teams we think could win their division, but there's not a team. We think they can go from being at the top of the draft to suddenly being a Super Bowl contender. So I do think that that's what makes this year a little bit different. [00:18:09][35.9] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:18:10] The exercise that I think is interesting about this is like so from like 2000 to 2018 or something like that, I want to say 16 out of 18 years, there was a worst of first team in the NFL. And then the last four years I think there's only been two. And last year was the Jaguars, which, you know, came down to the last game of the season to get the. [00:18:30][20.5] Julian Martinez: [00:18:30] Bengals to a couple of years ago as well. [00:18:32][1.7] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:18:32] Yeah so I think I think we went two years without a worst of first team. Maybe Washington counted as a worst to first during the pandemic season. But the point being like you don't see it as often. And my theory for the reason that's the case is the top end talent in the NFL has never been as sturdy as it was in past years. Like you used to be able to always say, well, you know, the Patriots are going to be good and, you know, the Peyton Manning is going to be good. And other than that, we'll see what happens below that. Now you can say we know Kansas City's always going to be good. We know Buffalo's always going to be good. Before Buffalo, it was the Patriots. We always knew the Patriots were going to be good. Now we feel confident saying we know that the Bengals are always going to be good. The 49ers are always going to be good. I personally would say that the Eagles are going to be really, really good this next year. [00:19:20][47.5] Julian Martinez: [00:19:20] Like now, I. [00:19:21][0.6] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:19:21] Think they get top end talent. [00:19:22][0.8] Julian Martinez: [00:19:22] Now we're saying this too, and part of what makes a lot of worse the first seasons is injury and we can't predict injury. We're not in the future talent business in that respect. But if you told me, like we go into this year and God forbid something happens to like Mahomes or Trevor Lawrence or a lot of those Top End quarterback talents, then throw everything out the window and that completely changes a division. And suddenly you say, like Houston Texans, bare with me. But the Houston Texans winning that division suddenly becomes likely because the talent around them in the division just instantly is not that good. [00:19:57][34.7] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:19:57] I mean, we were talking about that with Jared Goff earlier. Jared Goff goes down for the Lions and we take them out. I mean, it means. Ten wins could win the NFC North. If you told me the Bears got ten wins, it wouldn't be the most shocking thing in the world. I mean, it would mean Justin Fields is taking the next step to like MVP frontrunner and like has made this Josh Allen. I mean, not Josh Allen type league. Justin Fields finished 10th in the MVP last year, but he's made an extra step. [00:20:19][22.0] Julian Martinez: [00:20:20] And you mentioned it earlier to the improvements and the talent around Justin Fields on the offense. This year is going to be something that if the Bears do make that leap and hey, kudos to you Bears fans, if this is like a turnaround season for you because I know that you've struggled to find talent at the quarterback position for ever. This is why I do think that we're of like mind here. We look at the division, we look at ascending players around the league and the Bears just make the most sense as far as like this worse, the first team. [00:20:51][31.2] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:20:51] You and I saw the highlights last year, we both believe like Justin Fields is incredible and I know I'm less of the winds are not a quarterback stat person than you are, but you and I both see it like Justin Fields. The record of the Bears was not indicative of the play of Justin Fields. Justin Fields was amazing. [00:21:08][16.3] Julian Martinez: [00:21:09] Now just I will cut you off just a little bit just to say that. Yes, I do see the highlights. I do think the talent is there, but I'm not as fervent of a Justin Fields believer entirely like he. I still need to see it like reflect in the win loss record. But I do think that it is there. Like I'm not going to deny it, is there. There is something like, can he have a Cam Newton style development? Yes, I do think that that is a possibility for Justin Fields. What about you ranked these teams in the comments section. How do you think that this things shake out? Is there like any exception to what we said here? Like, do you believe that there's a team that we're kind of sleeping on by to your thoughts in the comments section We like in the video, subscribe to the channel, follow us on all our social media from juju and Kyle. Stay safe, happy and healthy. We will see you next time. [00:21:09][0.0] [1242.4] Didn't think I'd be having this conversation, but here we are in 2023 and Daniel Jones is looking to become a $40 million quarterback.
Reportedly, the Giants offered Daniel Jones between 35,000,039 million per year, but Danny Dimes declined. Vanilla Vick is looking to be paid over $40 million on his next contract on a per year basis. Kyle, when you hear this report, when you hear the contract offers and the demands, what is your reaction? So Daniel Jones turned down 35 to $39 million offered by the Giants for what I assume is multiple years. Is that correct? Yes. LOL L.O.L. Daniel Jones. Let's not go crazy here buddy. One good season. Talk about ego. I mean, look, this is the difference here. Daniel Jones I was very public about this during the season. I did not watch the New York Giants football game in the regular season. I decided that if I'm going to have a healthy relationship with football, New York Giants is the thing I'm cutting out of my life until the playoffs, when I was like, Oh dang, Daniel Jones actually looks kind of good. Oh, this offense is actually kind of like able to move the ball. I know it was against a bad Vikings team. I was like, Oh, Daniel Jones looks different than I remember him. I saw him in spurts and touchdowns and Saquon Barkley being healthy changed a lot of that and I was like, Oh, this team's not bad. And then I looked at the numbers. I was like, They are an above average offense this year. And I looked at Daniel Jones, his numbers. I was like, Daniel Jones had a very good season, which as you said, means he now has one very good season and three bad seasons. I hate paying top dollar for one very good season and three bad seasons. I'm just not taking that risk. Playing devil's advocate, though, a lot of people would say that one good season was the one season that you had an NFL head coach that people felt confident and good about. Does that at all change one more year? Brian Dabol Maybe Daniel Jones could continue to grow and develop in this offense. You're not making Ryan the coordinator position, right? As far as I'm aware, no. Mike Kafka is coming back next year for them. So should be the same offense. And to your point, Brian De Ball did not take that job to commit long term to Daniel Jones. And if Brian De Ball took that job to commit long term to Daniel Jones. Brian Day Ball, you should have held out for a better job like you are the talk of the town after you fixed Josh Allen if you wanted this job because you committed long term to Daniel Jones, buddy, you should have taken a better job. Don't you think that might have been part of the job interview process though? Because reportedly the Maras do like Daniel Jones a lot. The Maras told Brian de Paul that Daniel Jones is going to be the quarterback next season. And after that, you know, you kind of have some flexibility and that's why we're talking about 35 to 39 to even $40 million for Daniel Jones is the Maras are the only team that's going to pay him that. Like if Daniel Jones hits the open market, who's the team that's going to pay Daniel Jones $35 million for multiple seasons? Who's going to pay him over $100 million? Guaranteed three years at $35 million. Who's the team? There's not a team that comes to mind. But for me and I guess I view this through my mind, I think there's only like five guys. I really would offer over $40 million a year to play quarterback for me. And Daniel Jones is not one of those guys. I look at $40 million per year as an elite level quarterback. Daniel Jones He's good. He's better than a lot of us wanted to give him credit for. But when I look at these total numbers from last year, 15 touchdowns, five interceptions, from a throw in perspective, we're going to use this criticism for guys like Justin Fields. We're going to use this criticism of guys like Lamar Jackson. He's a much better runner than he is a passer. Daniel Jones at this point is a much better running back than he is a quarterback. And you're not going to be paying Saquon Barkley $40 Million a year, so don't pay Daniel Jones $40 Million a year. In fairness to the five or six guys making 40 million, $40 million is the new $30 million. So I will say that it's not that unreasonable to pay the 10th best quarterback in the NFL $40 million. That's basically what the Rams are doing with Matthew Stafford. And they won a Super Bowl that way. On the flip side. Joe Jones, even the 10th best quarterback. Not in my mind at least. He won't be two years from now. So I wouldn't like this. I don't want Daniel Jones as my long term quarterback. I want Daniel Jones as the way that you treat like Jimmy Garoppolo, where it's like year to year, baby, Let's see if we could find something better. And as soon as he plays poorly. Let's do that. Like Daniel Jones or Derek Carr in a back. Well, though at this stage I would go Daniel Jones. But a year ago I would have said Derek Carr. Well, Daniel Jones, Jimmy Garoppolo You threw out the comp. At Price's. So if they're making the same amount of money. Daniel Jones If I'm getting Jimmy Garoppolo at what Jimmy Garoppolo is going for than Garoppolo, Yeah. Because I assume Jimmy Garoppolo probably this offseason I'm going to project $20 million 18 to 20 somewhere in that range versus if Daniel Jones baseline minimum is game $30 million equating. That value. I think Jimi personally, but. Yeah, think so. Think about it this way. So last year, Daniel Jones on the fifth year option was making $90 million, right? And Jimmy Garoppolo, after they guaranteed about 7 million, his contract was about $18 million and the Giants had the opportunity to get Garoppolo when he was going through the shoulder injury and they said, no, we'll just run it back one year with Daniel Jones. He's under contract and then we'll evaluate after the fact. I thought their wins and losses were going to be all about Will Levis, and that clearly is no longer the case for the Giants. I thought they were going to be drafting a quarterback in this year's class with a top ten pick, and ultimately the Giants aren't in a position to do that. They have an offense that's pretty good. I just I hate doing this because I'm a pro-labor guy and I'm a union man. But like, this is what the franchise tag was invented for is for people like Daniel Jones. Give it one year, see if he can do it, and then maybe tag him again next year. And then after that, it would be two years and 80 something million guaranteed. And maybe you play yourself and you have to spend an extra $40 million, but you also kind of save yourself in the not knowing and the possible we can't get out of them. Well, you only play yourself if Daniel Jones next year is coming out and performing at Lamar Jackson like levels. If this 15 to 5 touchdown interception ratio turns it to 30 and five next year, then yeah, you absolutely played yourself because Daniel Jones at that point is going to be hands down a $40 million a year contract, if not more. I agree with you. This is the perfect situation for a tag candidate if you've ever seen one. You do wonder in many ways, is Daniel Jones at risk of overplaying his hand a little bit? Well, not if the Maras love him so much that they're willing to pay it and they view him as their long term franchise quarterback because remember, this is the same group that essentially listened to the fans and fired Ben McAdoo because they tried to get rid of Eli Manning two years too early and they could have drafted Josh Allen in that 2018 draft class if they had listened to Ben McAdoo being right about Eli Manning being watched and instead they ran it back two more years with Eli Manning and went to Daniel Jones. So I don't know what the deal is. The Giants run their team differently than anyone else. They fell ass backwards into a playoff win this year, which I think in large part is Brian Daboll gives the people the flexibility to do what they want. Because I bet you if you gave that new general manager and Brian Day ball, I think his name is like Joe Sean or something. If you give the general manager and de ball the opportunity, I don't think they took that job to commit long term to Daniel Jones. And even the evidence they're seeing right now of one very good season out of one year with them, I wouldn't commit long term to Daniel Jones. What we talked about in the scenario, if you do commit it all to Daniel Jones, you can always offer him one of those fake contracts, the Derek Carr contract, Right. That he got this past season where you could cut bait after a year. The Jimmy Garoppolo contract where there's no guaranteed money after like year two, there's always the possibility that you could offer one of those. Now, if you're Daniel Jones agent, of course you're going to try and advocate to not have that unless you're okay with just getting a short term $45 million just for one year type thing. But that's the only situation in which you sign air quotes here. Daniel Jones three four year contract. That's yeah, to me is the only situation where you do it. Yeah. It's going to be one of the weirdest contracts in the world because it's going to be like an opt out after one. But then two years are guaranteed after the fact and maybe. You give them one of those sweeteners like we can't franchise tag you after next year or something of that nature. Just don't do what the Raiders exactly did and have a no trade clause in there because that guy to fuck them over. Yeah, but Daniel Jones needs his leverage. If he wants to go for $40 million, he needs another team willing to pay him $40 million. And I just like again, who's the team? No one else would give Daniel Jones more than that. Yeah, go back to him as a draft prospect. Who was the team that was willing to jump up there besides the Giants and no one. I mean. Yeah, nobody. He was a second round prospect and he's played like a second round prospect, which is he started for four seasons and once he becomes too expensive he becomes a fringe starter. Except now because he played a very good season this year he's upgraded from Jameis Winston fringe starter to Jimmy Garoppolo quarterback Purgatory, where they don't know what to do with him. And so is there another team Is it is it Carolina like who's the team that actually wants Daniel Jones. If you want to make a pro Daniel Jones case, you would also say that, okay, his passing numbers do look a little bit weak, but how many other quarterbacks had the wide receiving group that Daniel Jones had last year? Because the Giants did have one of, if not the weakest wide receiving group in the NFL, Richie James Junior was like their top guy. Well, then they got the guy from Buffalo, whose name I'm forgetting, the practice squad guy who had 100 yards in that playoff game. Yeah, their rider C record is not great. They got rid of Kadarius Toney because he was a bust and then became a Super Bowl hero for Kansas. The city because that's how that one works. And the Giants, we should be talking about Daniel Jones and his running ability. More like the vanilla Vick joke is actually a pretty good cop because everyone was like, Oh, Daniel Jones, you know, you want him to run the ball, but you don't want him to always run the ball. And the Giants were like, No, just run the ball Like our offense is run based and you're going to be doing read options and you're super fast. Don't you think that part of that was because they knew that they weren't committed to him long term, that they were willing to use the tread on his tires a little bit more, knowing that after this year nothing was guaranteed. And the same way we talk about running backs and burning them until the wheels fall off, right? Le'Veon Bell Right. I would it's it's kind of mean. But I would also say there's a reason why Jason Garrett doesn't have a job right now is because of those two years he spent with Daniel Jones in New York, which I guess is basically the bulk of Daniel Jones's prime at this point. The other part of it is having Saquon Barkley really, really helps in your running game because if you're worried about that guy, makes it easier for Daniel Jones to get on the outside and be a super freak. Running back is why I thought they should go get Greg Grossman somewhere. Even as a running game coordinator, whatever the title is, just get him into the coaching staff and let him design some plays. That would be a great idea going into this year, but the offense for them was, I don't want to make it seem like this is something you can't get rid of. Like the Falcons got Marcus Mariota replicated similar numbers in the Giants like the to the Giants offense like it's not like this is a transformative offense that's changing the game like they had a very good season and if you don't think you can do better than that, then I guess recommit to Daniel Jones and Saquon Barkley at $50 million a year combined. All right, guys. Well, what do you think the Giants should do with Daniel Jones? Do you think that 35 million is a more than fair contract for him coming into this year? Would you like to hear your thoughts in the comments section? Like in the video, Subscribe to the channel. Focus on our social media from Juju and Kyle. Stay safe, happy and healthy. We will see you next time. So a report dropped this week.
NFL reporter Mike Fisher says that the Cowboys have interest in C.J. Stroud. Now, for anyone looking at this report, they have to think, don't the Cowboys already have a quarterback? Don't they already have a highly paid quarterback on the roster, Dak Prescott, one that has lost his last two playoff games through the 40 Niners? This is an interesting development because the Cowboys, they've seemingly been pretty loyal to Dak Prescott over his time there. Now there was a small contingent of fans that were shouting Cooper Rush last year, but nonetheless Dak Prescott came back definitive starter and there's no looking back on it, despite him leading the league in interceptions last year. What do you think when you start hearing the report that the Cowboys are interested in looking into possible quarterback replacements for their highly paid quarterback. Means that Dak Prescott may be headed into a make it or break it season in Dallas? And I said after the playoff run last year where everyone was kind of dumping on Dak because he led the league in interceptions despite the fact he only played 12 games. I want to say after Cooper Rush's injury situation. Yes, first time in our history that someone who has missed five games has also led the league in interceptions. So when that happened and look, he played alright in the playoffs, of course, the Tampa Bay game, they worked up on a team that didn't belong in the playoffs and Dak's numbers were solid at the very least going into that game. And after that I said there is no scenario where Dak Prescott is going to be gone because they just can't afford it. They just can't afford to move off of Dak Prescott after this season. He's got $49 million guaranteed coming. This next season. He is going to be the Cowboys quarterback through the end of 2023. And when the Cowboys signed that extension, they knew he was their quarterback through 2023 and there was very little way to get out of that After 2023, most of the guaranteed money has been paid out. So there is a scenario where the Dallas Cowboys can move off of Dak Prescott. They might have to take a dive one season in 2024 because they would have a $40 million dead cap hit. But similar to Aaron Rodgers, there are ways they can spread it out over like two or three years where the 40 million won't hit in one season. It'll be like 2010 and ten over three seasons. But they can get out of the Dak Prescott contract and save like $25 million if they so choose coming out of next season. And so if you're potentially looking at the next quarterback of the future and maybe don't want to extend Dak Prescott until he's 35 or 36, which I think you could go both ways on that one. Giving Dak a four year extension, not giving Dak a four year extension. If they don't want to do that, then maybe looking at replacements is the right way to go. And C.J. Stroud was the quarterback listed in this report. Now we talked a little bit about it off camera, the possibility of gain C.J. Stroud would be a costly endeavor for them. At the very least, I predict C.J. Stroud is going to be in the top ten, just given the amount of quarterback needy teams out there. And I equate this more to the Trey Lance deal that you probably need three first round picks to get up into that top ten to draft Stroud. So I'm going to discount it happening. Notable that they're looking at Stroud and it's notable that this is the quarterback that's piquing their interest. But I'm actually looking at this quarterback class and it's not half bad as far as like depth in the class. Dak was a fourth round pick, right? As I look at this year's draft class, besides like the top three quarterback, the definitive top three where we talk about Stroud Young and Will Levis, there are guys like a Hendon hooker that you could get later coming off an ACL injury. There is a guy like a max Dugan, you could get late in the draft. I think a lot of teams, their perception of drafting quarterback has changed a little bit because of one Brock Purdy, Mr. Rubin seventh round vet. Even if you're the Cowboys, aside from a rock party, you literally drafted Dak again in the fourth round so you can find value at the quarterback position. Now it's not something that happens very often. We do see a lot of the better quarterbacks in the league are first round picks. However, you can get a guy that you can always win a championship or capitalize on a championship window with. And I think the Cowboys have come to the realization it's probably unlikely that they're going to win a Super Bowl with Dak Prescott. You talk about it being a make or break year. I feel as though the only make for Dallas, especially when you have an aging owner like Jerry Jones, is to win a championship. And I think this will be a hard choice because for Jerry because honestly, Jerry is a pretty loyal guy when you really think about like all the guys he's given contracts to, all the guys he keeps giving sack and opportunities to third opportunities, fourth opportunities. Jason Garrett was there for years. Mike McCarthy's seemingly got a longer leash as he does Dak like Jerry giving him opportunities. I feel like he'll continue to give him opportunities. However, they should always be kind of like looking to upgrade that position because I think there's a ceiling. I think we've hit that ceiling with Dak Prescott. So let's go back to when Dak Prescott was picked in the fourth round back in. 2016, because the reason there are a couple of reasons why the Cowboys were able to get him in the fourth round in the first place. One of them, Dak, was coming off of a DUI in college, and so that ended up hurting his draft stock. But the second reason, the infatuation with Paxton Lynch, which was everyone saying, I can turn this six foot eight gigantic quarterback with a big arm into something. Oh, Paxton Lynch, great stat, first quarterback to ever be benched in the CFL, NFL, USFL and XFL. Paxton Lynch, Broncos legend. Even just just. Saying that makes me tickle. Like so. Dak was still the fifth quarterback taken in the class. And look, the Raiders probably hate that they took Connor Cook over Dak Prescott, but Prescott was basically the fourth quarterback in his class. It's just he slid into the fourth round because there just weren't a ton of Mid-round QB You. Mentioned that there was no DUI. Then we're probably talking about Dak Prescott at minimum. Probably like a sack around quarterback, like a Jimmy Garoppolo type. Yeah, he would have been the third quarterback in his class if not for this weird Paxton Lynch infatuation, which by the way, is this is the same thing the Cowboys are banking on this year. I don't think it was a weird Paxton Lynch infatuation. I'll say this because you look at a guy like Josh Allen, right? You draft a guy that has tools, you have got a big arm tall. You know, you think it could work out. But obviously we know how that story was written. But yeah. It's perfect that you said that because guess who's now a top five taking the NFL draft? Anthony Richardson. You know why? Because one team looks at Anthony Richardson and says, I can fix that. I can make him my Josh Allen or I can make him my Paxton Lynch And Anthony Richardson is going to get picked in the top five by some teams. So if the Cowboys are banking on is one someone takes Will Levis over C.J. Stroud which would just be ridiculous. And two, someone's going to take Anthony Richardson in the top five, which means C.J. Stroud becomes the fourth quarterback taken in his draft class and the Cowboys can pick him up. The Cowboys are trying that same strategy all over again with Stroud. Now, there's no rule that says you can't evaluate quarterbacks in the draft. Even if you have a quarterback on the roster or a guy under contract on the roster, I think is the important thing to know. If you're a smart front office, you're always looking at upgrades at every position. I don't care if Patrick Mahomes is on your roster. If you think some quarterback out there exists that's better than Patrick Mahomes, then you've got to be continually evaluating the position. You look at a case like the Philadelphia Eagles, you know, they had Carson Wentz on the roster that didn't stop them from drafting. Jalen hurts in the second round. You have to constantly be thinking about like, well, how is this going to age? How is this specific contract going to age? Do we need a backup quarterback is very valuable in the NFL too. It's something we're learning about. How many quarterbacks suited up last year, like 60, 70 quarterbacks, I think was the number that was listed. Even if you're not drafting a guy to eventually be your starter, you need a capable backup. Just in case I mentioned Mahomes, Mahomes got hurt, you know, thank God you had Chad Handy who knew the system and was able to come in and do what he needed to do. A lot of teams could benefit from just even at base minimum. Having a Chad Heaney on the roster are Gardner Minshew on the roster, Brock Purdy, Jimmy Garoppolo one of these kinds of quarterbacks that just could come in and win you a couple games. You talk about a guy like Anthony Richardson, like, well, he has the tools to like maybe give you like a couple of good games in his rookie season. You hope it doesn't end up like a Malik Willis situation where they come in and they're just completely inept at the NFL level. But the Cowboys would be smart that if they're not drafting a serious round and they don't have to draft the C.J. Stroud second, third round, fourth round, fifth round, take a guy. There's like I said, this is a very deep quarterback class that even if you're not drafting, who's going to be an NFL starter? There's a lot of guys who are going to be very good NFL backups. I think the Cowboys would be smart to capitalize on that, even if they're not looking for Jack Prescott's direct replacement this offseason. And we guys let us know in the comment section below. What do you think of this report? Do you think it's noteworthy that the Cowboys are even looking at the quarterback position, looking to upgrade at the quarterback position potentially? We'd like to hear your thoughts like on video. I'm sure you guys stay safe, happy and healthy. We will see you on the next one. Speaker 1: [00:00:00] Jonathan Gannon signed with Arizona Cardinals. And Shane Steichen is going to be the head coach of Indianapolis. The Eagles are going to have a lot of change going into this next season. Like Jason Kelsey, there's rumors he might retire that's going to heavily impact their offensive line. They're just not going to be able to afford to pay people in the same way. And Jalen hurts. He's earned himself a contract. You know, Jalen Hurts has earned himself a top five NFL contract for sure. So if you're the Eagles and you want to continue this run of success, how likely do you think that is? [00:00:30][30.9]
Speaker 2: [00:00:31] About as likely as it was five years ago. Right. Because we just went through this with the Eagles where they had the quarterback that was coming up on a giant contract. They had the offensive line that was aging, like Jason Peters turning 39 and Jason Kelsey with retirement rumors. They had Zach Ertz, the older tight end who they replaced with Dallas cutter Chris Long retired. They ended up this year replacing them with Jason Raddix. It feels like we were kind of just here not too long ago with the Eagles. And it's super interesting because they are in that same position again. They're going to extend the quarterback. There's no fifth year option on Jalen Hurts, so he's got to get it this offseason or else his contract is up at the end of next year and they've said we're going to pay him close to $50 million. You don't usually hear that from the president and the owner at this stage of the game. They're like, Yeah, we're going to pay him whatever he wants, so they're going to pay. Jalen hurts, and like you said, that means a couple pieces aren't going to be there in a couple of years. The Eagles kind of just went through this five years ago and they really messed up badly five years ago. Like they miraculously pulled themselves out of it, but like, they had to go to some pretty low lows in terms of building themselves out of that lull. They came in after winning the Super Bowl in 2017. [00:01:45][74.1] Speaker 1: [00:01:46] So looking at it, the unrestricted free agents for the Philadelphia Eagles cornerback James Bradberry defensive tackle Fletcher Cox tackle Andre Dillard linebacker T.J. Edwards. Safety Marcus Epps Safety C.J Gardner-johnson Defensive end Brandon Graham. Defensive tackle Javon Hargraves. Defensive tackle Lynn Paul Joseph Center. Jason Kelsey Punter Brett Curb Gardner Minshew is out Zach Pascal at wide receiver defensive end Robert Quinn, who they just acquired this past season. Myles Sanders Boston Scott Isaac Small number two Ginsu and Kizer White That's a lot of names. In particular the. [00:02:28][42.2] Speaker 2: [00:02:29] Fliers. [00:02:29][0.0] Speaker 1: [00:02:30] Yeah, in particular, the positions that are most heavily affected too of their running back rotation. The Miles Sanders and Boston Scott both gone. And then you look at the impact on the defensive line I get it Brandon Graham Fletcher Cox These guys are probably in their sunset years, but at the same time they're still really good. They're why the Eagles were really good. If they was either of those guys, I think they'll come to some sort of contract with these two because I think for a guy like Fletcher Cox, he's like the heartbeat of your Philadelphia Eagles defense. He's been there the longest. Brandon Graham, too, has been there for a long time. They're okay with letting a guy like Nam can sue walk because she was again just a midseason acquisition. Javon Hargraves might be on the way out, but losing all that talent, these guys are all talented and you're just not going to be able to pay them all. That's going to hurt. Like, I don't know how much it hurts. I think that when I look at the composition of the NFC East, okay, so the Giants, they were a nice little surprise this year. Will the Giants be better next year? The Cowboys, I think they'll still be good. The commanders still kind of like in limbo right now. But they did beat this Eagles team last year in a regular season game. So if this Eagles team starts becoming less talented because that's was their main advantage over the NFC entirely this year as top to bottom, they had the most talented roster. If this roster is no longer the most talented roster, then what is this Eagles thing? [00:03:57][87.3] Speaker 2: [00:03:58] This is why it's so hard to remain sustainable in the NFL. And the good news for the Eagles. Like I know it sounds doom and gloom when we list 19 players, nine of them who started in the Super Bowl, if you count T.J. Edwards as the 12th guy in that linebacking corps and gardner-johnson as a slot corner, like nine people who started in the Super Bowl. While it does sound doom and gloom, they have so much draft capital stored in their back pocket to be able to work with not just having the Saints pick this past year, but like the two best players in college football in 2021 are on the Eagles and didn't play at all in the Super Bowl. We're talking about Jordan Davis and Kobe Dean. They are betting on those dudes being high caliber NFL players. And so that's the thing that could help them remain sustainable. It's just it's a daunting task that like even the 40 Niners messed up they were bad for a couple of years in there and then they got back to you know, we win ten games to end the regular season and go to the NFC championship and lose. But they were bad for a couple of years in there. So like it's just really hard to remain sustainable, especially when I mean Brandon. Graham and Fletcher Cox were talking about pre-game of the Super Bowl. Like, we fully anticipate this could be our last game in Philadelphia after being there for a decade. [00:05:06][68.8] Speaker 1: [00:05:07] So if you're the Eagles going into this draft, you have three picks within the top 62. You have the number ten overall pick you mentioned from the Saints. And then you have your own pick. You have your 30th pick. They don't have any picks in rounds four, five or six, but they do have two seven. So that's currently what the Eagles have draft wise. Given that you do have to reload at so many different positions with that number ten overall pick. Do you stay at that pick or do you consider trying to trade down and get more assets to fill in the holes in your roster that you're going to have after this offseason? [00:05:42][35.1] Speaker 2: [00:05:43] They've done it twice now. They just keep it back. They traded back from 6 to 12 to get Devonte Smith and the Dolphins could get Jaylen Waddle. They took that first round pick and they trim back again with the New Orleans Saints last year. So they have this pick because they've traded back each of the last two drafts. And if the right offers on the table, sure, trade back. People spend way too much money on their top draft picks because like in the Saints case, they gave up two first round picks for Chris Galloway. Love Chris Galloway. Don't think he's worth giving up two first round picks for even on the rookie contract. So whatever the situation is, I'm sure Howie Roseman has earned the benefit of the doubt in that circumstance. And the thing that happens when you subtract those players and you get younger is more of the burden falls on the stars. And in this case, the stars is one particular star, which is Jalen Hurts. And I mean, as great as we think Jalen hurts is we we recognize that that that growth that Jalen hurts saw this past year was a byproduct of a lot of talent being around him the right offensive system to his skill set and putting him in positions to succeed so that he could put up one of the great Super Bowl performances of all time, which I point out. Nick Foles in his Super Bowl had 373 yards, four touchdowns, one turnover. Jalen hurts in this Super Bowl 374 yards, one more yard than Nick Foles, four touchdowns, one turnover They basically played exactly. [00:07:07][84.3] Speaker 1: [00:07:08] Okay let's ease up on the Nick Foles Jalen hurts comparisons beyond that they are not the same player. [00:07:14][6.7] Speaker 2: [00:07:15] No, not at all. [00:07:16][0.8] Speaker 1: [00:07:16] So yeah, Nick Foles great season. Jalen hurts. I expect him to have future great seasons, especially because I think the thing with Jalen hurts that we obviously all talked about was coming into the year he struggled to complete basic passes that was not as much of a problem this year. The fact that he was a high 60, 70% completion guy was a revelation to his ability to be a franchise quarterback like the Eagles are prepared to make him. We're starting to see that a lot more. Obviously, Josh Allen was another guy that struggled to complete basic passes and the Bills made him into a super star quarterback. Jalen Hurts When you look at the current composition of the NFC, he is the best quarterback. I mean, I don't look at any other quarterback currently in the NFC. What like an injured Matthew Stafford Dak Prescott the definition of mid we'll see what happens. Kirk Cousins actually Kirk cousins probably like he has his whole photo next to mid in the Merriam-Webster dictionary. [00:08:20][64.3] Speaker 2: [00:08:22] You know Kirk cousins Kirk cousins definition of purgatory and that's a that's a purgatory quarterback. [00:08:27][5.1] Speaker 1: [00:08:28] Guys that we used to think that were of a higher tier like Kyler Murray who the hell knows at this point. Yeah like Jalen hurts stands above everyone else growing in the NFC and that could change fast. But for the most part, I think even if he does fall off a little bit, I think he'll still remain as a top three two top five quarterback in that conference. [00:08:47][19.2] Speaker 2: [00:08:48] You mentioned the perfect comparison for where the Eagles actually are, because I want to at off the top bring up like five years ago they were in this exact same situation where they had to extend the rookie quarterback and it meant that they lost some pieces and they went to the bottom and built it back up. The perfect comparison for where the Philadelphia Eagles are right now is the Buffalo Bills after that first AFC championship where Kansas City just blew them out, the building was like 31 to 7 in the fourth quarter. That is the perfect comparison for where the Eagles are right now because you've got two years with the current core of this team. After two years, you got to rethink everything because Jalen Hurts is going to be making $50 million against the cap. AJ Brown is going to be making $25 million against the cap. Those two players combined making $75 million versus what they are right now, which I believe is roughly about 20 million between the two. So you have to rethink everything after that point, when Buffalo lost in 2020, Josh Allen and Stefon Diggs were making a combined $15 million per year against the cap this last year. Two years later, they were only making $27 million against the cap in 20. 23. They'll be making a combined as it stands right now, $51 million against the cap. The margins fall apart. At some point you have to find value within the margins. And the reason the Buffalo Bills have lost in the second round of the playoffs other than scheduling breakdowns where they had to play Kansas City in the second round instead of the AFC championship the year before is Buffalo has not drafted a Pro Bowler in four seasons. The Eagles are in a position where they have the excess of draft capital and they're going to have to start planning for what two years down the road is going to look like while also trying to go all in on winning championships because, you know, you have a championship caliber roster right now and threading that line is something that I mean, at the end of the day, we can kind of say Buffalo didn't succeed at they had two year run with rookie Josh Allen and after they made that AFC championship, they lost to Kansas City and then lost to Cincinnati at home in the playoffs. Those feel like disappointments given the level of talent they had. So the Eagles right now are in the position of Buffalo two years ago and I think following that trend is going to be interesting to watch as the Eagles replace coordinators to make roster decisions and try and draft young players to complement Jalen Hurts. [00:11:10][142.4] Speaker 1: [00:11:11] And I guess I should not underrate the coordinators lost Steichen had to have a huge hand in whatever development Jalen hurts had this past offseason and the fact that they're going to move on. We'll see Sirianni Obviously he's a guy who cut his teeth offensively, although he was not calling plays. I'd like to think that he had some involvement as the head coach into the offensive playcalling, so hopefully Sirianni could just kind of pick up the pieces where they left off. Didn't really work too well for his mentor though, right? Compare this to the 2017 Eagles. Whenever Doug Peterson lost Frank Reich, it became harder for him, even his offensive minded head coach. So we'll see if Sirianni in losing. Steichen will have that same issue that Doug Peterson, his predecessor, had. Anyway, guys, going to leave it up to you in the comments section, How do you think this year's Philadelphia Eagles would do coming off an offseason that they're bound to lose some talent? Like to hear your thoughts. Leave it like on the video. Subscribe to the channel files on all our social media scrum Juju and Kyle. Stay safe, happy and healthy and we will see you next time. [00:11:11][0.0] [661.3] Speaker 1: [00:00:12] The Niners injuries, they just kind of go hand in hand. It's that rocky meme of them just kind of like shaking hands. Injuries. Kyle Shanahan, just right here. I'm sorry, the predator. I'm mixing up my 1980s action movies. The Predator, Not Rocky. Don't Kill Me. [00:00:29][17.1]
Speaker 2: [00:00:29] From 1976, dude, you 19. [00:00:32][2.6] Speaker 1: [00:00:33] Whatever. And anything that, you know, has that kind of odd tint of movie is like a eighties movie to me. And anything that's black and white is basically a fifties movie. That's how it works for me in my mind that. Anyway, guys, you know the main story. What's up? Bury the lead here. Niners fan here. Got the helmet on my desk. Trey Lance is done for the year and Kyle and I kind of had different thought processes through this whole process of how to develop. Lance are the niners developing? Lance Well, I was shocked that Jimmy G came back. I was shocked that Jimmy G came back. I was less shocked in a way. But, you know, I knew it was a possibility. I just kind of was waiting to see how the situation played out. And sure enough, it worked out six and a half million dollar incentive. Wait until now. That's going to get pumped up to $17 million because he's going to play Trey Lance is done for the year. Jimmy Garoppolo the starter the rest of the year as long as he can stay upright and on the field so Kyle like how he feel and he got a couple of days to digest this one. [00:01:28][55.1] Speaker 2: [00:01:29] So if you check out the Take It Easy podcast, which I record every day, there's a 40 minute talk about this and I waited like 72 hours to kind of process all of it so I won't get to everything I want to say. Just want to direct people there just in case. Going back to stuff we talked about in the past, I thought it was insane that they would bring Garoppolo back because I mean, I guess in hindsight later we figured out because everyone filled their backup jobs, but like paying $10 million for a third round pick where Garoppolo would only be used as a kind of like distraction for Trey Lance, because they should have given I believe they should have given Trey Lance the team as soon as they drafted him in 2021. And like, you know, optics be damned about Garoppolo or whatever else. And if you're spending that much on a quarterback that high, you go for it. Where I didn't process the situation is the odds were so small that the 40 Niners would be the team that had the catastrophic injury. Like even when they brought back Jimmy G for training camp, they were waiting for someone to have a catastrophic injury who would then trade for Garoppolo. The odds were so slim that the 40 Niners would be the team that had the catastrophic injury that in my mind I didn't even contemplate that that would be a possibility in the Garoppolo calculation. So that's where I will apologize for that. It's really good that they have Garoppolo on the roster because the I mean, if there's 32 teams, the 3% chance that Trey Lance would be the quarterback who had the catastrophic injury that would leave him out for the season. The fact that it happened to San Francisco, everything worked out great because that small percentage chance ended up coming true for San Francisco. [00:03:04][95.3] Speaker 1: [00:03:04] Two things that I want to touch on that you mentioned the idea of not going all in. They didn't go all in on Trey Lance, but they went all in on last season. They made it all the way to the NFC championship game. So they they went on in. They thought, we're going to roll out our best players, the players that we think give us the best chance to win. And that was Garoppolo. And I think that still carries into the 2022 season. When you ask around the team, you look at the Mike Silver reports, you listen to that locker room. There's a lot of people in that locker room that think that Jimmy Garoppolo should have been the week one starter and you should maybe play the situation reversed. And too, I want to talk about the odds of the Niners being the one to face the catastrophic injury. Obviously, I mentioned as a joke the kind of team odds, the random poor luck that has befallen the Niners franchise in terms of injuries, but not a chance, unfortunately, have to come to an uncomfortable conversation about Trey Lance in terms of his health and his injury status. He's a guy that's been injured in college. He's a guy that was injured last year and minimal playing time and he's injured this year and added to the fact that the coach doesn't trust him enough to throw the ball. So he's running him through the middle. He's running them between the tackles and putting him further injury risk. And that that's kind of where things are with the Niners fan base in terms of the injuries and the idea of going all in. I think that right now today they are a better team. With Jimmy Garoppolo as the starting quarterback, I think that they have the best odds to win a Super Bowl. I think what went wrong is that they just gave Trey Lance the job without any competition in training camp. I think that was the mistake. [00:04:33][88.9] Speaker 2: [00:04:34] So this is interesting because if last year going all in on Jimmy Garoppolo are going all in on the team meant Jimmy Garoppolo playing and this year going all in meant having competition between Lance and Garoppolo. This brings up the thing I've been arguing between the two points, which is there's a conversation of Lance versus Garoppolo and then there's a conversation of why did you pick Trey Lance in the first place? Why did you trade up for 3/1 round pick? Because you believe he's the. [00:05:01][26.7] Speaker 1: [00:05:01] Shooter, Kyle, because you believe he's the future. And we just because he hasn't played the first two years doesn't mean that that's. Still not the case. That's not still on the table. I know this isn't the 1990s anymore, but Steve Young thought to wait six years for Joe Montana to leave town to get into the game. And when he did, he was fantastic. He was the future of San Francisco at that point. I don't think just because we live in 2022, it just resets the entire game. We played this game for a long time. [00:05:26][25.0] Speaker 2: [00:05:27] But Shanahan and John Lynch have said publicly for months on end the point of drafting Trey Lance was so they could get value at the quarterback position in order to pay all these other players their giant contracts. The whole point of getting him was to have the rookie contract quarterback. So this is Shanahan and Lynch saying that. So what is the point now that all three of the first round picks you could have had? So the 2021 first, the 2022 first and the 2023 first, they will all be spent before Trey Lance plays more than four starts as the 40 Niners quarterback. And of course, they couldn't have predicted the injury this year if you had started him from last year, week one, and he had gotten hurt this year, perhaps they don't go as far in the playoffs, perhaps they go further in the playoffs. You would have had the same sample size as like the Dolphins have right now on tour. And I hear a lot of people making conclusions about what two is or isn't after 20 starts. If you give Trey Lance 20 starts, at least you have a better idea of what he is right now. You still have just as much information as you had when you drafted him in 2021. [00:06:30][63.0] Speaker 1: [00:06:31] Well, you know, maybe I'm obviously I'm playing the results here. I know what happened. We looked into that crystal ball and we know that the result was NFC championship game appearance. But what I would say is that there's been multiple ways to carve out development of a quarterback, and it's a very new idea, the idea of just throwing a quarterback or rookie out there in week one and just kind of fend for yourselves. And everyone said it on draft day, the Trey Lance was going to be a project quarterback. Everyone knew he was going to be project quarterback. Everyone knew that if you wanted the guy that was going be ready day one. Yes, you draft Mac Jones as unexciting, as unsexy, as epic would have been. You draft Mac Jones on day one. If you want a guy that's ready to go in there and maybe rookie year Mac Jones with the Niners offense and all that, you could make an argument, who knows? Maybe he's in the playoffs. Maybe they want a playoff game with him. I doubt it. I don't think he would have survived the frozen tundra in Green Bay and the same way that Jimmy Garoppolo was able to navigate as a veteran. But you can make that case if we're saying that Mac Jones is just a tick below what Jimmy Garoppolo is in terms of ability with Trey Lance, you're still hoping one day down the line maybe he takes coming off this injury he comes back better third year training camp. He has that Josh Allen and yes, we can talk about value we can talk about the value of the contract that you waste the rookie deal. Who cares if, let's say Jimmy Garoppolo gets you back to where you were this past season? Let's say they get back in the NFC championship game. Is it really not worth it? You know, you made it to two NFC championship game appearances and you're still a Super Bowl contender. And if Trey Lance does have that third year breakout, that fourth year breakout, you look at this 3 to 4 years of Niners football and you still think of it as a success. You know, you think go in. Yes. Rather than going 7 to 10. Correct. With Trey Lance just trying to figure it out, meander his rookie year, maybe he gets a little bit better. Let's talk about a two of development gets you to nine and eight. But you missed the playoffs this year, right? Is that what you trade that or a couple of NFC championship game appearances maybe the possibility of Lombardi because that's still on the table, you know, in terms of also contract wise, salary cap wise, let's say they got Jimmy Garoppolo at a fucking bargain, you know? Yeah, end of the day, like 17 million for a guy that at least has Jimmy's resume, because we could again, we can nitpicked Jimmy to death. We could debate where his contract should lie in terms of what he's done, the results compared to what his contract is. A $17 million quarterback, you got him at a bargain. One of the best bargains in the NFL. You look at some of the other quarterbacks in the league, they're getting paid 20, 30 million that are less accomplished. Jimmy Garoppolo has been there, done that, and hopefully can continue to do that so long as again, and this is factored into it. He stays upright. You know, big part of the reason Trey Lance is even in the locker room is Jimmy Garoppolo has injury history himself. So, you know, that's baked in. That's all things are a part of this cake of Niners football. [00:09:22][170.7] Speaker 2: [00:09:23] And this is an interesting point because you're right, it would be a success if the 40 Niners make three NFC champs or even make three deep playoff runs like they can lose in the second round this year. And it would be successful given all the injuries they already have. Like if they make that run, it would be successful and at the same time the process to get there would be incredibly fucking stupid because they should have just spent those 3/1 round picks instead of trading it for Trey Lance. Which brings me to the thing that I brought up on my podcast, which is the 40 Niners are basically just people who's turned all their paychecks into crypto in 2021, like they basically just spent 3/1 round picks on something that only has value because everyone agrees it has value. [00:10:04][41.2] Speaker 1: [00:10:04] So I'm going to tell you this. As someone who has heard the crypto discussion for the last couple of years by the dip, the dip is Trey Lance, his injury by that dip and next year it. [00:10:14][9.8] Speaker 2: [00:10:14] Doesn't matter anymore. [00:10:15][0.8] Speaker 1: [00:10:16] To the fantasy football league. Buy that dip that is Trey Lance, I am telling you right now give you some free fantasy advice on this very serious Niners football discussion. [00:10:24][8.5] Speaker 2: [00:10:25] This very serious discussion of crypto. But crypto in December of 2020, the value of crypto was one Bitcoin was worth $60,000. Today it's worth $19,050. So it's already lost 70% of its value. Even if you buy the dip, it's already lost 70% of what you would have put in back in, you know, 20, 21 when they traded for Trey Lance. So you've already lost 70% of the value. You just threw it away. And yes, it might work out in the end because you still have a really talented team and you drafted well for four years and got, you know, the greatest offensive tackle in football for a third round pick. Like it might work out. It was just a stupid way to get there because you should have drafted Devonta Smith, you should have drafted, I don't know, whoever they could have gotten late in the draft last year. You could have drafted someone this year like you could have done something else if you were going to play Garoppolo anyways. Because it seems. [00:11:19][53.5] Speaker 1: [00:11:19] Like we only nitpicked the Patriots now after Tom Brady's left and look back at all these horrible draft decisions that Bill Belichick has made. But we forgive him. Patriots fans forgive him because they have, what, seven championships or six championships with Bill Belichick in town. So I think that what it comes down to end of the day, one way or the other, eventually Niners fans are going to start holding Kyle Shanahan accountable to winning championships because he has been kind of coasting on, you know, obviously being in the Super Bowl a couple of years ago. Trey Lance Bottoms some time I guess that's also part of the thing, too, was like how much like could Kyle Shanahan afford to just kind of work and try to develop because we don't really have much resume of him being a developmental guy. You know, we don't have much of a resumé of him building up a quarterback. Who's the quarterback that Kyle Shanahan's built up to this point? [00:12:12][52.8] Speaker 2: [00:12:13] Kyle Shanahan has built up and zero quarterbacks. It's just that. [00:12:17][4.3] Speaker 1: [00:12:18] Right guys who have already a guy who was in an NFC championship games. Sure. You want to. [00:12:22][4.1] Speaker 2: [00:12:23] Elevate. [00:12:23][0.0] Speaker 1: [00:12:23] People. He's elevated people. Jimmy Garoppolo, we say he's elevated him, but too, this is another thing that's part of the discussion is. [00:12:30][7.3] Speaker 2: [00:12:31] His his project before Ryan was up, his project before Matt Ryan was Brandon Weeden. That was basically his project. And by the way, I just went back. You could have had Micah Parsons at pick 11. You could have had Rashawn Slater at 11. [00:12:45][14.5] Speaker 1: [00:12:46] Yes, that is fair. That is understandable. But if in year four, let's because we okay, we actually don't know this I how if I told you Jimmy Garoppolo takes him to a Super Bowl this year, then how hard is that discussion going to be next year? Like, are you just going to say still are that's on scholarship. That's something that's going to be part of the chaos. But again. [00:13:07][21.1] Speaker 2: [00:13:08] What was the point of getting Trey Lance in the first place? It's basically like spending. [00:13:11][3.7] Speaker 1: [00:13:12] Your money to have him. You want to have him in, you're on your team in your locker room. You want to figure it out. You want to see if you can build him up. It's not like this is conclusive evidence that he's done. This is over. Trey, Lance's future with the Niners is over. This is this is a setback. Everyone acknowledges this is a setback. This is a huge speedbump. But hopefully this is something that on the other side and hopefully on the other side results in some jewelry in your pocket. But on the other side that you have a franchise quarterback coming to your team. Sometimes you just want to get guys in the building like, okay, sometimes you draft a seventh round quarterback and you don't play him right away and you're fine with that because you drafted in the seventh round, right? Keep them on your team a couple of years and a couple of years down the road, he becomes a stud. We just got to have to shift that expectation. Yes, you had to pay a premium to go grab him, but you got to keep him on your roster. Yeah, keep him in your locker room, develop him, bring him around your guys, build him up, and maybe eventually you might have to pay him more. I don't know how much you would have to pay him unless he's putting up Josh Allen numbers next year. And even then you still might be okay with that, you know? [00:14:18][66.3] Speaker 2: [00:14:19] Yeah, but it was just so stupid in the first place because if you were going to play Jimmy two seasons anyways, this year is the year to get the quarterback or if you have three, if you're willing to spend 3/1 round picks anyway. [00:14:30][11.7] Speaker 1: [00:14:31] So that's what. [00:14:32][0.7] Speaker 2: [00:14:32] Russell Wilson was. [00:14:33][0.7] Speaker 1: [00:14:33] I think is stupid is they should have done it in reverse. If you did it in reverse. I don't think you get killed as much as you do today if as much as you do this week. If you had Trey Lance have to come in with Jimmy Garoppolo, battle it out and cap and you just said Trey Lance is the better quarterback. Let's start him. You don't get killed as much. But since you did this situation where you put Jimmy Garoppolo on the bench as the backup, now the guys in the locker room also have to question the coach. Why weren't you starting the better quarterback from the start? Because it was clear that in those two games you did not trust the playbook to be fully opened up under Trey Lance because tonight. Is throwing the ball around exponentially more than they were when Trey Lance was on the field versus when he exited. I think that that's something to also kind of note. And, you know, the conversation on Bay Area Twitter is constantly is Kyle Shanahan not as much of a genius as we think? I guess we'll find out. Because, you know, another thing that's following him around is nine or ten is besides when Jimmy Garoppolo has been in the lineup, there has been a lot of wins. And that's kind of spurned a lot of fans and a lot of fans the wrong way. So we'll see how that develops. And I think I've said my piece with it. I would encourage everyone to check out, you know, you have 40 minutes, like you said, El Rey recorded. Hey, we got those links in the bio. Check him out, guys. Drop in on the discussion. I know everyone has their opinion on this. Trey Lance, Jimmy Garoppolo, Kyle Shanahan, 40 niners mess that is. And I want to know what everyone else is feeling about it. A label like on the video helps a channel. Subscribe to the channel, helps it even more. Follow us on social media. Kyle Ledbetter Juju Talk Sports. Instagram handles right there. Stay safe, happy and healthy. We'll see you next one. She? [00:14:33][0.0] [845.6] Julian Martinez: [00:00:12] So the most exciting game away to hands down was that Dolphins Ravens game. Oh, my God. If you are part of tuned on, this is where you break out the tinfoil hat. You are right. You're praising down. You're bowing down. You are not worthy to the greatness that is Tua Tagovailoa. I mean, God bless. Six touchdowns I was not expecting. That is his marquee game. Hands down. There is nothing that he's done in the NFL to this point that tops that game. That's his signature in this very young. Because it is a very young still three year NFL career for to that game against the Ravens. How impressed were you in that obviously. Hey, bragging rights. Bragging rights here. You know, your boy picked them against the Ravens. You know, I got to get that one in this. [00:01:01][48.6]
Kyle Ledbetter: [00:01:02] This was the perfect outcome because I walk away from that game saying Baltimore Ravens have the third best offense in the NFL. Hands down Baltimore Ravens behind Buffalo and behind Kansas City. Third best offense in the NFL Buffalo. Baltimore Ravens are incredible. Not only did they score 38 points, they got stopped on the one yard line that would have gave them 45 against the really good Dolphins defense. Baltimore is excellent. They have three very good receivers. They don't have a true number one, but they have DuVernay, who is excellent Rashod Bateman who is excellent, and Mark Andrews in the middle of the field. Rashod Bateman and Devin DuVernay coming into this year were viewed as like, Ooh, the Ravens have one of the worst receiving corps in the NFL. No longer. Those two are excellent. So I walk away from that saying Baltimore at my AFC North pick. Excellent. And we got the most fun game of the season because everything like the most perfect two and on completion of that game came true, which is the Dolphins had like a 2% chance to win that game. And not only did everything have to break right, with four Ravens corners being out and Tyreek Hill and Jaylen Waddle having more receiving yards between the two of them than any tandem in the NFL since Julio Jones had 300 yards back in 2017. It is incredible how great they were in that game and the Miami Dolphins end up winning even though they probably shouldn't have won that game. They ended up winning that game behind the incredible performance. So to that, I say game of the year, everyone wins. We know Baltimore is amazing and Miami got to have a super fun performance. [00:02:43][101.4] Julian Martinez: [00:02:44] And they go into this one. So we we talk about the expectations for Miami in the offseason. Right. We made that video and we're saying, what can the Dolphins do to establish that they're here to be a playoff team this year? And we looked at week two and we said, that is a big game. That could be a signature game. And obviously it started off ugly for them. Then they make their comeback and we see that the greatness, the untapped potential is there. The defense saw it going against a tough quarterback to play in Lamar nonetheless. But they button down, they burn it down when it mattered most. And then you talk about the offense. What could Mike McDaniel bring to the Dolphins offense? Well, he can scheme guys open. He got guys that were wide as open. You talk about the corners being out. Sure. You talk about Tyreek Hill's electric speed. Sure. But I think it really is telling that Mike McDaniels could scheme guys where there are guys not even within ten yards of them. Right. So you all two needs to do at that point is display, right. Tyreek Hill said in the offseason he's one of the most accurate quarterbacks or he's the most accurate quarterback I've ever played with. And he hit Tyreek that second deep ball. Okay, we talked about it a little bit in the weekend to the first deep ball. Not as good, but the second deep ball. That was fantastic. But he's going against this week a guy that throws the best deep ball in the National Football League and that is Josh Allen. Josh Allen. So the bills are coming off a short week. That is something the kind of plays in this game. But is it really a short week when you beat the brakes of the Tennessee Titans like they did on Monday night? Not even a this in two games. The Buffalo Bills really haven't had a contest. And that's saying, okay, I know you don't like the Titans. We'll talk about the Titans, another video. But I think the Titans, you know, they're still a playoff team last year. I don't think they've got that much worse. And then you go back to week one, they beat the Rams, the defending Super Bowl champions. They made it look easy. Actually, they didn't make it look easy. They made it look hard in the first half because they decided to turn the ball over three times. And if they hadn't turned the ball over three times, what would that game score have been? [00:04:49][124.3] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:04:50] Know it would have been it would have been 45 to 10 and Buffalo would have. I mean, they did dominate, but Buffalo, they gave up zero points to other than turnovers. They gave up zero points off turnovers in that game. They gave up seven to the Titans. And they're putting up 40 a game. The Buffalo Bills are in the same space as the Kansas City Chiefs have been for the last three years, which is the entire purpose of the regular season, is to get healthy for the playoffs and possibly learn to run the football. But if you don't learn to run the football, it's not the end of the world. Because once you come to the playoffs, you can let Josh Allen be your RB one and let him just be larger than most linebackers. [00:05:30][40.3] Julian Martinez: [00:05:31] Let me ask you this, because the line is currently six points in the Bills favor. Do you think Vegas is looking at this and just saying the bills have just been so damn good or are they looking at the Dolphins still and with a little hesitancy to buy in? [00:05:45][13.9] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:05:45] Well, let's remember that before the fourth quarter. Well, I guess third quarter before the second half of this game, the Miami Dolphins had scored 27 points in six quarters. And I know the Patriots game was a little wonky because once they took the lead, they just kind of like screamed the ball into oblivion to end the game and they just kind of like neutered the offense and played ground control. But they didn't really do much in the first six games of the season. Their running game has been awful to start the season so far. As I said, it would be going back to the start of the year. They just have not been able to move the ball on the ground. [00:06:17][31.8] Julian Martinez: [00:06:17] But what they have started do and I think the Ravens are going to be a good run defense throughout the course of the year. And I think obviously the Patriots are a team that focuses on taking away what your strength is as a team, which I think is going to be the running game. They start to get the ball more Terry he mostert we saw where he most are make appearance he led the dolphins that carries 11 carries I think if they didn't use him give him ten carries a game that's going to be a successful Miami Dolphins offense. You want to keep them upright. But I think that that's what they're going for. They're hoping for from them. [00:06:47][29.8] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:06:48] Yes, I think that they should. I mean, I don't I don't know what you do. I just don't think their running game is going to do great, because I don't think Edmonds or Mostert is a game changing, running back and even the McDaniel scheme. Although we'll talk about their offensive lineman a little bit later. But I do want to talk about Buffalo real quick about your question with the line. I do think that this is about Buffalo can put up 30 points with their eyes closed and they can do it without Gabriel Davis either. So like Buffalo is just walking backwards. [00:07:13][25.2] Julian Martinez: [00:07:14] Yeah, that's kind of what they're looking like this season. [00:07:16][2.7] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:07:18] Yeah, Buffalo is totally overwhelming and we expect that they'll win every game. They won't win every game this year, but they'll be favored in every game that they play. And I think that's just a byproduct of Vegas is always putting the line where they can make money. So it's not about what they think or don't think. Obviously it's early in the week, so the line will move. But this is about making money. And so a seven point favorite is about where they feel like they can make money. Either way, Buffalo is that much of a favorite against Miami because I know everyone's high on Miami right now. By the end of the season, Miami is going to be either like sitting pretty with the sixth wild card or they're going to be battling it out for the last playoff spot by one game difference. There's like a one game difference between being comfortably in the 65 or fighting for the SEC. [00:08:04][46.9] Julian Martinez: [00:08:05] You needed one game. You're happy that you got the one game ahead of the Baltimore Ravens, which are going to be another team that's going to be competing in that space. So the Dolphins are doing it right now. The big question about this game, as you're facing your main competitor in the AFC East now going into the season, we could be wrong. Who knows? I mean, Buffalo, again, they're walking out of this world this year. They're going into the season. We thought Buffalo was miles better than the Miami Dolphins. I think the gap is closed. So the gap is closed because Miami is showing that they have the right pieces to compete. If you go into this game and I'm not saying they win, but you go into this game and you make it a close game, you make it a game the buffalo has to think about. Then that also kind of continues to build on what you're building in Miami. And I think that that would be a good take away. So if they could get this within the Vegas line of being under six points, within six points of the Buffalo Bills, I think that's that's where they want to be. I think the hell you know what, betting wise, I am taking the dolphins plus six. I will take the dolphins plus six and I will pay the bills to win. But I will think the bills to win this game. You know. [00:09:14][69.2] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:09:15] I do as much as this is talk about too and McDaniel and the changes that the dolphins made this I feel like it can be as simple for my mom to get my let's acknowledge the 2% chance Miami is to know Miami should be one in one. No. Even if they get three touchdowns or four touchdowns in the second half of that game, they should be one and one. Let's point that out. But at the same time, isn't it super easy to look at the Dolphins year to year and say, oh, I guess just adding a top five wide receiver and a top five right tackle because I will point out through two games, Tyrann Armstead has the fourth highest pro football focus. Great of any offensive tackle in the NFL. Isn't it interesting how bringing in a top five offensive tackle and a top five wide receiver totally changes how your offense looks. [00:10:01][46.7] Julian Martinez: [00:10:02] Another point to that, I saw this floating around Twitter that the Dolphins. And make the smarter wide receiver trade than the Las Vegas Raiders with Davante Adams. Because while Davonte may need the ball like 10 to 14 times to truly make an impact in the game, Tyreek Hill only needs 1 to 2 times touching that ball to change the entire course of how you look at a game. [00:10:25][23.2] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:10:26] Yeah, so the Davante Adams thing I think is too small of a sample size one. There's no reason he should have only had two catches for 12 yards in that Cardinals game, which I will point out lowest catches and yards total for Davante Adams since September of 2017. But the first game, Davante Adams played well and Derek Carr played shit like a late game. Touchdown is going to make Derek Carr stats look better, but Derek Carr had like a 34 quarterback rating in that Chargers game. Like he played awful and that's not going to usually happen. We don't think of Derek Carr being awful, so too small of a sample size for both guys, Tyreke and Forte. [00:11:02][36.1] Julian Martinez: [00:11:02] But the point itself, their playstyle I think is the grander thing. You notice that Tyreke has the ability to change the game and if you're two two, you have to feel good about this man, right? You had a whole ass. You had a whole three years of people questioning your ability. Were you worth that, the fifth overall pick? Why was this guy taken ahead of Justin Herbert this that the other you know what you go out there and have a game like this. It cements your place in the NFL. It's to you know, we talk about what can to be in the long run of things is he going to be a ten year starter backup on another team down the road or is he going to be truly a difference maker quarterback too early? He talked about small sample size, too early for me saying for sure. But if you're Tua you did it in your mind, right? You did it on the fill. So you have you. [00:11:56][54.2] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:11:56] Did it one time. Yes. [00:11:57][1.0] Julian Martinez: [00:11:58] So in your mind you're like, you know what, I could beat a team like Baltimore. Why can't I beat a team like the Bills? You know, moving up the confidence because I feel like Tua his confidence had to be at an all time low as a player, you know, when you're getting benched, pulled back and forth with Ryan Fitzpatrick your first year and then last year, you know, you have all the Brady rumors and you have Bryant flaws, not fully trusting you and the GM even make some comments that are questionable about your future American. [00:12:26][27.8] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:12:27] Ribs in the first game of the season. [00:12:28][1.7] Julian Martinez: [00:12:29] People question how tough you are, you know, and he's making spin moves making sack in third reason this game you feel good about that and I think that that's important I think that's why McDaniels is was the right hire because this is what people say back to his time with San Francisco, that he empowers players, that he makes people believe in themselves. And it sounds hokey. It sounds like a thing on a Christmas card, you know, or something like that, a Hallmark movie. But I like that's important for a guy that, like I said, has had his confidence beaten into the ground, like to or has over the last three years. [00:13:04][35.4] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:13:05] Mike McDaniel makes people believe in themselves, even though the Dolphins didn't believe in Tua and the Dolphins also didn't believe it. Mike McDaniel Because I will remind people they wanted Sean Payton, then they wanted Brian Daboll, then they got Mike McDaniel, they used their Plan C head coach. [00:13:20][14.9] Julian Martinez: [00:13:21] The Rams didn't know what they had when they hired the youngest head coach in the NFL in 2017. Sometimes, you know, you walk into it, sometimes it's better to be lucky than good at hiring people. [00:13:30][9.5] Kyle Ledbetter: [00:13:31] I think the Rams were good at the hiring process and they ended up with a generational coach. All this to say, yeah, Buffalo's going to win, Buffalo is going to defeat the Miami Dolphins in this game. And I'm not going to bet against Buffalo the entire season because I will win more often than I will not. But think about this week. We've gone from to being the guy who is the like the most polarizing person in the NFL. The Dolphins spent two years trying to replace him with three different quarterbacks. And now the Miami Dolphins might give him the Jared Goff extension. [00:14:03][31.4] Julian Martinez: [00:14:04] Yeah, and time will tell how that goes. But you know what? Last year we questioned whether or not the Cincinnati Bengals were a good team or not. After the game against the Green Bay Packers in week two or three, you know, maybe this is the Ravens game was their turning point moment. Who knows? I'm going to buy in on the Dolphins. But guys, are you buying in on the Dolphins? Are you buying in on the Buffalo Bills? Where are you going for this Sunday? Who do you think's going to get the win in Miami? Drop below in the comment section we were like in the video, subscribe to the channel post and social media from Juju and Kyle. Stay safe, happy and healthy and we will see you next time. I don't know what that was. See you next. [00:14:04][0.0] [815.8] |
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